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any ideas what these are? They were part of a group I picked up recently with not much info.

This one also has a very similar body and head shape, and similar pattern, it just has an anery or ghost color.

The amels look like some species of rat snake.
The grey, as you said, looks anery corn.
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Jack Jeansonne

yep, oversight on my part - the grey one is most likely not a corn: though the blotches look very corn-ish, the head has no corn markings, so at least its only part corn. probably grey rat, as said.
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Jack Jeansonne

The bottom snake is a Grey Ratsnake. The top snakes are some sort of amel Ratsnakes. It can be very difficult to tell the different types apart and some amel rats have been crossed and given the name "bubblegum rat snakes." There is a lot of variation even in "pure" amel rats, like this pair of Black Ratsnakes that I used to own.

Tim

Third Eye

The 1st ones look like Albino Black Rat Snakes, and the Anery looks like it could be a Cornsnake Rat cross .... You may want to see if you could get ahold of Carl Linn he breeds Bubblegum Ratsnakes(Ratsnake crosses) and Such, He should be able to tell you what they are..

I would agree with everyone but I am leaning toward gray rat phases the bottom one looks like a white oaks phase.

Tom

....grey rat agreed,,

amels are crossed.......not pure black rat or yellow....or ?????
the saddles ar5e too odd, and too far spaced....leaning towards black and yellow amel crosses (plus maybe many more in there???).........

.....cute....the one is odd with the spaced pattern and reduced saddles.....I like that one .....!

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JY
Scales-N-Tails
reptiles ltd.

Yeah,the bottom pic basically looks to be Grey rat(white oak phase), or at least a major portion is, and the other amels as Tim said are extremely tough to tell with absolute certainty. Albino obsoleta complex can be a tough "egg" to crack considering all the underlying pigment variation that can occure, etc..

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Hello,

I had two pair of the top ones years ago they are albino Texas rat snakes.
Kenbad.