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Diet for Juvenile Savannah Monitor

Farli129 Aug 04, 2009 01:53 PM

I recently rescued a juvenile Savanah monitor (about 7in in length including tail) from a petstore that had him for 4 months and he hadn't grown at all. I dewormed him (not his ideal treatment) and he doesn't really like to eat. He has no interest in mealworms, crickets, eggs, or canned monitor diet. I need to know what else to offer him. I am not sure he is quite big enough for a pinkie mouse.

We now finally have an agreement that I will hold him wether he likes it or not, and I can coax him into eating mealworm pupae (which i will get him to eat 3-5 a day. He no longer struggles when I hold him, and he no longer tries to bite me. But I really would love to watch him eat on his own (reptiles eating facinates me). I have a blue-tongued skink who eats great and 5 juvenile bearded dragons who eat amazingly...any tips and websites are great! Thanks!

Replies (9)

robyn@ProExotics Aug 04, 2009 05:17 PM

Your animal's lack of appetite is related to your husbandry. I am going to take a wild guess and say temps aren't nearly what they should be.

Check out our site, in the caresheet and FAQ sections, for more detailed info.

Get a copy of the Savannah book by Bennett and Ravi, it is the best monitor literature in print.

Best of luck.
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manchild Aug 04, 2009 07:21 PM

I'm going to agree that you husbandry is off.But the other problem is he dose not want to be held.By forcing yourself on him you are causing stress,a stressed out monitor is not going to eat.

greg

bigwizzkid Aug 08, 2009 10:41 PM

Monitors are very different from a lot of other lizards out there, especially Blue tongued skinks and beardies, which are hard to mess up the husbandry for. monitors have to develop an interest in you, you can't just force yourselves on them like you can with many reptiles. It sounds like he isn't eating because of stress, and it could very possibly also be in part by the rest of your husbandry, but i don't know how you are caring for him so I wont say that. The forced holding however is not a good idea.

Farli129 Aug 09, 2009 02:03 AM

Great news! I think it was too cold for Ptolemy. He (that is what I say he is, but don't know for sure) was very lethargic. I added a ceramic heat element, and he is eating great! He has even shed! I thank you for your responses. What is your suggestions for making our lives easier with each other. Petting ok? or rather just watch from afar? My friends rescued a Savannah from someone and held her everyday and she was the sweetest thing. They became busy with life and stopped holding her and only interaction is when they fed her. She became agressive! I had her for 2 weeks while I was healing a burn she had (Had to clean daily and apply meds) and I got her docile again with holding and petting. What should I do to make little Ptolemy's and my relationship better? Any and all info is greatly appreciated...

Mike H. Aug 10, 2009 02:09 AM

>>My friends rescued a Savannah from someone and held her everyday and she was the sweetest thing. They became busy with life and stopped holding her and only interaction is when they fed her. She became agressive!
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Actually, when they stopped holding her, her stress levels dropped, her broken spirit healed, and she became confidant & secure again. A defensive and aggressive monitor is a happy monitor that is communicating to it's owner. Have you ever laid in bed with a fever and chills? All you want ot do is lay there and do nothing...that's pretty much what an over handled, stressed out monitor feels like. That's why they appear to be "tame", and then when the novelty ends and the keeps cuts back on all that handling, the settle in and become happy and secure and no longer want to tolerate all that molesting from their keeper.

My Sav gets defensive sometimes, but never aggressive. The reason it never gets aggressive is because I don't "attack" her by grabbing her and taking her out of her enclosure and getting her all stressed out.

I posted this a while ago, but I'll repost it here because it answers your questions.....

A molested monitor (a monitor who's owner reaches in, grabs him & pulls him out of his enclosure) will never truly learn to trust a human. They either turn aggressive, or develop a stressed broken spirit and submit to the molestation rather than oppose it with aggression.

A nice confident monitor will let you interact with him but will also communicate to you when to come closer or when to stay out of his space.

You can see a level of trust and respect. When the cage is opened, he doesn't flee & hide raise up on his rear legs in preparation to tail whip.

Out of curiosity, he watches everything I do.

Some gentle interaction. He'll sometimes lay his head on my hand and close his eyes.


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manchild Aug 10, 2009 02:48 PM

WoW!!!!! Great post Mike.

greg

Mike H. Aug 10, 2009 07:59 PM

>>WoW!!!!! Great post Mike.
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Thanks Gregg, just trying to help a fellow herper is all
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Farli129 Aug 12, 2009 08:26 PM

So then here is a question...how do i interact with him? He is ALWAYS in his hide or burrowed in his substrate. He lets me pet him without complaint now (no trying to bite or his or anything). I would love to get him to be very social. any hints or tips on this?

treesnake28 Aug 10, 2009 04:29 PM

at 7 inches he can take fuzzies throw a pinkie in their and he'll probably take it
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