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I snapped a few pics of some animals on our new back porch.

06 Female annulata Freer TX locality

Another 06 female annulata generic

06 male eastern Westchester NY

05 female Cosala

Another 05 female Cosala

Male 05 Cosala

Male 08 holdback Cosala

That's all I had time for today. I hope you enjoyed.

Dave

DNS Reptiles

All nice snakes and good photos too.Thx for sharing Dave

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Doug L

Thanks Doug. Now if you'll just send me that male 08 montgomery county triangulum, I'd be happy to send all the pics you want of it. lol

later,
Dave
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Oh Dave. Be patient. I will get ya one brother.

You are KILLIN' me with those photo's!!..geeeezzz!. As a matter of fact, the very annulata on your top pics I have kept in mind as my absolute very next ssp. additions I plan to get next, those are just phenominal, as is your other stuff too.

later Dave, ~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Thanks Doug. Those annulata are some of my favorite.

Dave
DNS Reptiles

Now THOSE are the kind of annulata I want to get my hands on! Why breed something mediocre when I know beautiful animals like that exist. I just really need to get my hands on some genetics like those ladies!

Dave, is that what wild-caught annulata look like, or are those after several generations of selective breeding? Those are beautiful! Hmmm.

Of course I was disappointed that you didn't take any new pics of your blacks!!
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Kent

Hey Kent,

I don't really know for sure the answer to your question. I know that some pinners have been caught, not sure if their bands were that thin though.

Dave
DNS Reptiles

I don't care what anyone says, those anulatta are hard to beat, one of the simplest, yet one of the prettiest snakes around! Awesome milks all around!
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Todd Hughes

Thanks Todd. I agree with you!

Dave
DNS Reptiles

Hey Dave,

Where on earth did you get a Westchester milk from? That county is right across the river from where I grew up and I never saw a single milk in all my years of herping there!

Best,
Vinny
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“There is a grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed into a few forms or into one; and that whilst this planet has gone on cycling according to the fixed laws of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, evolved.” -C. Darwin, 1859

Natural Selection Reptiles

Hey Vinny,

Welcome to my world of looking and not finding. I spent my entire childhood in Erie County NY looking for triangulum and all I ever found were sheds of them. They're around but just darn hard to find. My neighbor found a black rat in his back yard last month and we live in the city of Charlotte!

Later,

Dave
DNS Reptiles

Dave, all awesome looking snakes man. What is the story on that "Freer" animal? I have never seen a locale annulata that looked even half that nice.What line is that from? who produced it?

L8r Shannon

Hey Shannon,

I got a few of those annulata from Ric Blair last fall. She is the only one I kept.

Dave

Thats a real looker man.I would do some home work though before I called it a "freer" animal.I am sure it stems back to Dan Johnson pinners and maybe ws a outcross or something.To hang a locale name on something you need some pretty concrete info and the animal should have that specific look.I know with a few generations ofline breeding that everything will clean up and whatnot but dude that is as far from a freer animal as I have ever seen.

Here are a a couple typical freer animals for comparison.

this is a f/2 male.

this is a w/c female with her clutch from the f2 male.

just for fun check these out.

L8r

I'm just calling it what Ric told me it was.

It does look different than yours but I do see some similarities.

Quit sticking eggs in the microwave and you'll stop getting those crazy looking ones to hatch out. lol

Later,
Dave
DNS Reptiles

n/p

All of those animals are stellar! I especially like those eye-popping annulata and, of course, the Cosala, Sinaloa locality sinaloae. More photos of your collection are ALWAYS welcome!

-Cole

Thanks Cole. I appreciate the kind words.
Dave

those annulata are awesome Dave!
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Paul Weaver
Carolina Herps