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Sangria Boa Pics

Hermin Soler Aug 09, 2009 10:36 PM

I finally took some pics with some natural sunlight earlier today. These represent their true colors.

What do you all think about these? What combos would you like to see?

Thanks.

Hermin

Hermin Soler Reptiles

Replies (7)

lavenderboa Aug 10, 2009 06:58 AM

The last topic about your Sangria's, I said they could be "axanthic" boa's.

Maybe everybody missed this post.

What do you think about this? And what about other readers? Isn't this probably true?

Eabele.

treeserpent Aug 10, 2009 11:18 AM

Looks like there is yellow on the tail to me.

Hermin Soler Aug 10, 2009 11:53 AM

Eabele, I did miss your last post.

Very interesting Axanthic thought!!! This could explain the missing yellows but what about the increased reds? Even though all that is left is grey, black, and red, why would the red come out so much if in fact Axanthic?

There is a possibility as suggested by Jeff Ronne that there may be visual Hets of some sort involved here......Of the 15 babies in the litter about more than half are the bright red type as those in the pictures I have posted. There are some that are less red but definitely not normals. Could the parents be Visual Sangria Hets? I know for sure that the babies I have posted are far more red than the parents were when babies. However, the less red babies which I have not posted yet look more like the parents did as babies but are not exact.

Appreciate your comments.

Hermin
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lavenderboa Aug 10, 2009 05:47 PM

Off course it is a possibility that the parents are hets and your litter is containing homozygous and hets. But... If you look at statistics, you should expect something else, from that pairing:

het x het = 25% homoz. 50% het AND 25% NORMAL.

So it doesnt sound very probable to me.

Why they are red, if it is "just" a gene to block the yellows? I think it's because normal the yellow mixes with the yellow, to give more brown/yellow look. When you eliminate the yellow, the reds "look" more intense.

But to give the best answer, I really need to see the normals from this line. In other words: How would these animals look when they were normal? Do you have normal appearing "ancestors"? This tells a lot! Maybe they also have a lot of red, polygenetic wise.

Eabele.

lavenderboa Aug 10, 2009 05:52 PM

I didnt mean the yellow mixes with yellow, but with the reds... stupid me.

Eabele.

TheBoaSphere Aug 10, 2009 10:15 AM

NICE! i say start by putting them to a sunglow. good luck!
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reddogg1 Aug 10, 2009 06:07 PM

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU THROW A MOTLEY INTO THAT!!!!! HOW BOUT A REDDISH MOT??? POSSIBLE???

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