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Casual reading...

CrimsonKing Aug 10, 2009 12:03 PM

...put me onto this....
(emphasis mine)
Any thoughts?

LINEAGE DIVERSIFICATION IN A WIDESPREAD SPECIES: ROLES FOR NICHE DIVERGENCE AND CONSERVATISM IN THE COMMON KINGSNAKE, LAMPROPELTIS GETULA. R. Alexander Pyron and Frank T. Burbrink 2009. Molecular Ecology 18: 3443–3457. Abstract: Niche conservatism and niche divergence are both important ecological mechanisms associated with promoting allopatric speciation across geographical barriers. However, the potential for variable responses in widely distributed organisms has not been fully investigated. For allopatric sister lineages, three patterns for the interaction of ecological niche preference and geographical barriers are possible: (i) niche conservatism at a physical barrier; (ii) niche divergence at a physical barrier; and (iii) niche divergence in the absence of a physical barrier. We test for the presence of these patterns in atranscontinentally distributed snake species, the common kingsnake (Lampropeltisgetula), to determine the relative frequency of niche conservatism or divergence in asingle species complex inhabiting multiple distinct ecoregions. We infer the phylogeographic structure of the kingsnake using a range-wide data set sampled for themitochondrial gene cytochrome b. We use coalescent simulation methods to test for thepresence of structured lineage formation vs. fragmentation of a widespread ancestor.Finally, we use statistical techniques for creating and evaluating ecological niche modelsto test for conservatism of ecological niche preferences. Significant geographicalstructure is present in the kingsnake, for which coalescent tests indicate structuredpopulation division. Surprisingly, we find evidence for all three patterns of conservatismand divergence. This suggests that ecological niche preferences may be labile on recentphylogenetic timescales, and that lineage formation in widespread species can resultfrom an interaction between inertial tendencies of niche conservatism and naturalselection on populations in ecologically divergent habitats.

CNAH Note: In yet another elegant paper from the Burbrink laboratory, the authors divide the Common Kingsnake (Lampropeltis getula) into five species, as follows (text taken from the paper)

(from CNAH)Eastern: A lineage comprising the kingsnakes of the eastern seaboard of the United States, from New Jersey to the Florida Keys and extending to the Apalachicola region in the Florida panhandle and southeast Alabama (CNAH: will become Lampropeltis getula, the Eastern Kingsnake). Mississippi: This lineage ranges through the greater Mississippi River drainage east of the Mississippi River, from southern Illinois east to Ohio and western West Virginia in the north, to the Tennessee and Alabama river drainages of Georgia and Alabama in the south (CNAH: will become Lampropeltis nigra, the Black Kingsnake). Central: The Central lineage inhabits the Great Plains and Mississippi River valley west of the Mississippi River, from Iowa and Nebraska in the north to westcentral Texas and the western Gulf Slope in the south, east to the Mississippi River (CNAH: will become Lampropeltis holbrooki, the Speckled Kingsnake). Desert: The Desert lineage is found in the Chihuahan Desert of west Texas, southern New Mexico (including the Rio Grande River Valley), extreme southeastern Arizona and eastern Mexico, along the Mexican Plateau. May also occur in north central Arizona (CNAH: will become Lampropeltis splendida, the Desert Kingsnake). Western: The Western lineage occurs west of the Rocky Mountains, from the southern Great Basin in Nevada and Utah, southern Oregon south to Baja California, and most of Sonora, Mexico, east to southeastern Arizona (CNAH: will become Lampropeltis californiae, the California Kingsnake).

The following subspecies were not recognized as distinct: floridana, meansi, and nigrita.

The status of Lampropeltis catalinensis was not addressed.

:Mark
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Replies (11)

Beaker30 Aug 10, 2009 12:40 PM

Mark,

Interesting to consider. Although I wish the sampling size for the mitochondrial DNA analysis was given. Statistical inferences are a valuable tool, but a very small sample size would make the study less reliable. These findings seem to support the idea that the MBK is simply a hypermelanistic morph of splendida. It would also indicate that Floridana and Goini are simply morphs (or local variations) of Eastern Kings.
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Bluerosy Aug 10, 2009 01:46 PM

It would also indicate that Floridana and Goini are simply morphs (or local variations) of Eastern Kings.

What are they goping to do with Dr. Kryscos paper where the DNA of eastern kings and Floridana/Apalachicola don't match?
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brhaco Aug 10, 2009 05:12 PM

Maybe the "meansi" are a closer genetic match to the "Mississippi" king?
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Brad Chambers
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Beaker30 Aug 10, 2009 06:17 PM

I guess they'll have to take that up with him. I have no idea why their research indicated what it did since very little of the details were disclosed.
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God Bless Evolution.

Tony D Aug 12, 2009 01:04 PM

data and its interpretation are two differnt things.
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“Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind.” Emmerson

tspuckler Aug 10, 2009 12:54 PM

Interesting.

In the SSAR's last "Scientific and Standard English Names of Amphibians and Reptiles of North America...(Sixth Edition)" they decided that there are no Califonia Mountain Kingsnake subspecies "The DNA suggested distinct northen and southern clades that they left unnamed. The color pattern variation was too variable to differentiate the seven subspecies. We follow these data and do not recognize any subspecies at this time."

Tim

RossCA Aug 10, 2009 01:20 PM

Interesting for sure. I'm no herpetologist but I never liked the idea of meansi being considered a separate subspecies. I don't like the idea of lumping the Florida king with Eastern kings either because the looks are so different. Aren't their strange intergrades found in Northern Florida? I need to look at Hubbs book again. lol Its been the opinion by some for a while now that MBK's are actually melanistic Desert kings, so that one is easier to swallow. As time goes on there are going to be more and more changes in taxonomy, so I guess we will either accept it or not. Either way their common names are established and here to stay.
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brhaco Aug 10, 2009 05:19 PM

To me it makes sense from an anatomical standpoint, independent of color /pattern. If you examine a series of florida and eastern kings it's easy to see the similarities in size and body structure, compared to speckled and black kingsnakes (which are much more lightly-built and average smaller, on average).

I too would like to know details such as sample size from each region....
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Brad Chambers
WWW.HCU-TX.ORG

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antelope Aug 11, 2009 01:33 AM

blah, blah, blah. The splendida map of theirs sucks hard. Nueces county,Texas splendida....

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Todd Hughes

antelope Aug 11, 2009 01:33 AM

that ain't no speck!
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Todd Hughes

jlassiter Aug 12, 2009 04:21 PM

>>that ain't no speck!
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>>Todd Hughes

Yes...I agree with you Todd...I think Holbrooki range ends at the north shore of Copano Bay.....Splendida range should start in Aransas County south of Copano Bay all the way south to Brownsville....I don't know any further south than that...LOL
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John Lassiter

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