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Bloodred creamsicle, rootbeer, cinnamons

vanderkm Aug 11, 2009 02:02 PM

Credit and thanks to Third Eye Herp (tspuckler) for producing my foundation male creamsicle many years ago. I bred his cinnamon (hypo A) daughter to a bloodred male (Joe Peirce lines) this year and confirmed that he carried the diffused (bloodred) gene. We produced some offspring 2 years ago that looked typical, but the outcross to known bloodred was required to confirm it.
The parents - bloodred male and cinnamon female

Produced diffused creamsicles,

diffused rootbeers

and diffused cinnamons

Wanted to post this here to credit Tim - this 9 year old creamsicle is still the ideal in my opinion - huge snake, great color, fantistic condition - and genetic goldmine!!

I would be very intested in knowing if anyone else is working with diffused pattern in emoryi/corns.

Mary VanderKop

Replies (7)

KevinM Aug 11, 2009 02:13 PM

Mary,

There are a couple of breeders working with the chocolate morph of pure emoryi. The chocolate trait overwhelms (for lack of a better term) the entire pattern of the emoryi with dark coloration. Combined with the pure emoryi amelanistic morph, this produces an emoryi with a golden hue over the entire body as it matures. I have not seen one in person, but I understand it is quite a pleasing coloration. I am not sure if anyone has worked the this chocolate emoryi trait into other non-emoryi/corn lines.

vanderkm Aug 12, 2009 01:53 PM

Thanks for the info on the combination - I have seen pictures of the chocolate emoryi and can imagine it would be very nice combined with the albino - very pretty!! The chocolate mutation is still rare - have not seen it available in Canada yet.

Putting any pure emoryi albino in with corn or emoryi/corns is so tempting but it would be so hard to sort things out in future generations. I have been tempted, but for now will leave the emoryi mutations in emoryi and work with the corn mutations in the emoryi/corns.

draybar Aug 11, 2009 04:03 PM

>>Credit and thanks to Third Eye Herp (tspuckler) for producing my foundation male creamsicle many years ago. I bred his cinnamon (hypo A) daughter to a bloodred male (Joe Peirce lines) this year and confirmed that he carried the diffused (bloodred) gene. We produced some offspring 2 years ago that looked typical, but the outcross to known bloodred was required to confirm it.
>>The parents - bloodred male and cinnamon female
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>>Produced diffused creamsicles,
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>>diffused rootbeers
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>>and diffused cinnamons
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>>Wanted to post this here to credit Tim - this 9 year old creamsicle is still the ideal in my opinion - huge snake, great color, fantistic condition - and genetic goldmine!!
>>
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>>I would be very intested in knowing if anyone else is working with diffused pattern in emoryi/corns.
>>
>>
>>Mary VanderKop

Hey Mary
glad to see you over here.
Your snakes are looking good.
I have one rootbeer het bloodred that I will be working with, hopefully, next season.
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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vanderkm Aug 12, 2009 01:54 PM

Hi Jimmy,

I drop by here occasionally - mostly to read. Did know that Tim posts here though and wanted to gie him credit.

Glad to hear you have bloodred in your lines - will be looking forward to seeing what you produce.

tspuckler Aug 11, 2009 05:32 PM

Thanks Mary,

Back around 10 years ago I bought out a large section of a local breeder's (and creamsicle nut) collection.
One particular Cream X Rootbeer pairing would produce anerys, hypos, snows, rootbeers and creams.
Occasionally there'd be some somewhat diffused patterned snakes in the mix too - like this hypo (circa 2004).

Talk about bloodlines that are rich with possibilities!

Tim
Image

vanderkm Aug 12, 2009 01:59 PM

Nice to know a bit more of the history on this line. That is a beautiful hypo - certainly can see the diffusion effect there.

I have produced ghosts, anery, cinnamon and snow from your foundation lines - this is a diffused male that is 25% emoryi - produced a couple years ago - pretty similar!

Thanks again

guyergenetics Aug 12, 2009 09:04 PM

Those are some good looking Creams!

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