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What have we learned so far? We have learned that fear works.
Preaching fear got GW reelected. Preaching fear got us into Iraq. Preaching fear has worked for the HSUS and the PETA agenda.
Fear is working right now to kill the Obama health care reform initiative.
People fear the dismantling of their individual rights. People fear the Socialization of our Republic.
Wake up people -- that train has already left the station. The horse is already out of the barn folks.
There is an entire class of workers, not even citizens, that the working class American Citizen pays for and takes care of. We as Middle Class Tax Paying Citizens pay for and take care of all the social needs of illegal undocumented alien workers their entire lives here, thereby subsidizing the the true cost of wages paid by the Uberclass. It's time to wake up people. The Uberclass is robbing you blind. Now that it is their turn to pay their realistic fair share of the national health care burden, they've got the working class fighting among themselves. Fighting to preserve the economic edge the Uberclass currently enjoys. When it's finally the Uberclass' turn to pay their fair share in true economic terms they have successfully encouraged us to turn on ourselves in order to maintain the status quo, in order to preserve their economic edge. People -- you and I are already paying for the socialization of America. Been paying for it for years -- MAP, CHIP, Lone Star Cards, Anchor Babies, WIC, NGO's, Religious Charities, Blue Santa, Brown Santa, Coats for Kids, Emergency room care, Incarceration, Judicial, education, school supplies, the list goes on and on. The guys in the middle are doing all the paying and the people on both ends are getting all the benefits. We're all losing ground from the middle.
Fear works. Unfortunately, we choose ignorance over informed decisions. That entire argument is fear driven. It is fallacious. It is a red herring, a straw man argument.
jsc
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer
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"As hard as I've tried, just can't NOT do this"
John Crickmer

O.K. I'll bite J-
your message is somewhat cryptic, while I agree with some of this in principle, this is America and some of the things people give to are out of their own moral compass not because the U.S. Gov't insists. I have watched some of the Glenn Beck Show this week, it it is very telling as to where the progressives are going with our country in my humble opinion, and your right, they are going to suck the middle out so there is just poor and Power hungry, political rich. The American citizenry needs to get informed but greater than that while there is still time, speak up and be heard, I can appreciate you passion...
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www.phrynosoma.org

This is easy and simple.

1. You have NO RIGHT to my money, the fruit of MY labor, to pay for YOUR bills. Whether they are Medical, Restaurant, Electrical or otherwise, YOU pay for YOU.

2. You have NO RIGHT to medical care. It is a service, much like an auto mechanic, You pay for YOURSELF, or don't.

Have a nice healthy life.

And, for what it is worth, tonight, Nov 3, will be amusing to watch, as so many people, having had their eyes opened to the danger of Oba-mao and his agenda, go to the polls and dump not only Dems, but Pubbies for Conservatives. Elections have consequences, hopefully, the next couple can undo this disaster in the making that is the Obamanation.
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01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.