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someone help me out .. the parents are beatiful...Sold to me as Stillwater/Hypo cross's from an extrememly reliable source, When young they didnt appear to show much of either trait but now they are gorgeous ... Ive seen lots of images of new hatchlings showing red or hypo right out of the egg...
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These guys look like plain bulls,,, Whats your take?

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Safari Tom
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1.1 Black Pines
1.0 Snow bull
0.1 Albino Bull
1.2 Kingsville/Stillwaters
1.1 Whitesided Bulls
0.0.1 Cape Gopher
1.0 Normal Honduran het for albino
0.1 Anerythristic Honduran Het albino/anery
0.1 Tangerine Honduran
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When I first developed the Stillwater Hypo line many years ago, half of my hatchlings looked like yours. I never kept any of them so I don't know how they turned out. Any one else out there have similar offspring from stillwaters that they have raised? How did they turn out.

Adam

Unfortunately, those definitely look like normals/hets. Here's a recent Stillwater hatchling:

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Brad Chambers
WWW.HCU-TX.ORG

The Avalanche has already started-it is too late for the pebbles to vote....

Thanks Brad and Amartim

Thats basically what I figured, however I do have one coming out that is showing hypo,.. so out of 11 snakes, Ive got 1 hypo showing ... good grief ... What about the Red traits?
Neither of the parents were showing either trait but were supposedly het for both ...

Tom

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Safari Tom
See'em Touch'em Save'em

1.1 Black Pines
1.0 Snow bull
0.1 Albino Bull
1.2 Kingsville/Stillwaters
1.1 Whitesided Bulls
0.0.1 Cape Gopher
1.0 Normal Honduran het for albino
0.1 Anerythristic Honduran Het albino/anery
0.1 Tangerine Honduran
Signature edited

Red is not a simple dominant or recessive gene. You will get a mixture of color not one or the other. Depends on how red the parents are to start.

Since red is a line-bred trait, not controlled by any single gene, it is not possible to be "het for red"....
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Brad Chambers
WWW.HCU-TX.ORG

The Avalanche has already started-it is too late for the pebbles to vote....

So .. do you think that these guys could start showing more as they mature? When comparing the hatchlings it looks as though some are definitly more red than others ... The hypo that came out is a screamer its almost out of the egg now..

Thanks for all the input

Tom
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Safari Tom
See'em Touch'em Save'em

1.1 Black Pines
1.0 Snow bull
0.1 Albino Bull
1.2 Kingsville/Stillwaters
1.1 Whitesided Bulls
0.0.1 Cape Gopher
1.0 Normal Honduran het for albino
0.1 Anerythristic Honduran Het albino/anery
0.1 Tangerine Honduran
Signature edited

Yes, you'll probably get a range of colors, some will be red to an extent, others won't-color will develop as they grow.
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Brad Chambers
WWW.HCU-TX.ORG

The Avalanche has already started-it is too late for the pebbles to vote....

I think this article will help you out. The mode of inheritance for the red is polygenic and of course the hypo would be simple recessive. Hope it helps

http://home.att.net/~PIT_CREW/My_Homepage_Files/Page1.html

Take care,
Jeremy
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Jeremy Pierce
Shade Tree Exotics
shade-tree-exotics@att.net