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Found snake update and new substrate

jazmaniandevil Aug 19, 2009 12:19 PM

I can't recall if it was on this forum or the milk forum, but I once saw a guy post about his substrate being playground rocks. I thought that was interesting and I hate aspen, so when petsmart stopped carrying the substrate that I usually use I decided it was time for a change. I was going to head to the hardware store, but found the size I wanted in aquarium rocks. They were a bit expensive, but totally reusable, you know? Anyways, it's very attractive and the snakes seem more active (in the exploratory sense, not the trying-to-get-out sense, since I observed this behavior and deduces tat one of mine was hungry a day or two before he usually was but he was in fact not).
Also in this post, the gray banded that was on hiatus for ten months has eaten twice and pooped once, so all is good. I also checked the mobility of the area by having her gently curl around my finger, and I discovered that she has full side to side mobility, so hopefully there's no bone damage, but is rather stiff up and down. I believe this is because there is a rather large amount of stuck shed around the injury area that can hopefully be helped off with the next shed, so hopefully she'll be fine. I've posted a picture for your own assessment. She looks a bit skinny, especially for the fact that she was always large in body before, but hopefully we're on the path to recovery!
Thanks for reading, with so few snake owners in the Bozeman area I've got to tell someone the good news!
~Jasmine

Replies (9)

MikeMurphy Aug 19, 2009 04:14 PM

Good to hear your alterna is doing well. She's a beautiful snake. Next time she goes into shed make sure you give her a humid box to help her with shedding. It should help with that area that has old skin on it. You can use a plastic container with some moist sphagnum moss in it.

jazmaniandevil Aug 19, 2009 05:31 PM

I keep a humid hide in both of my snakes' cages at all times, so no worry about that! Thanks though.

jeff schofield Aug 19, 2009 10:41 PM

I dont know if you are just trying to be different or are simply not listening to any of GOOD suggestions that this forum has to offer! You previously posted about using LINOLEUM for substrate and were boldly, intelligently urged to do what was best for the snake. You didnt follow any of our suggestions. Keeping snakes on such substrate as rocks has just about all the problems that LINOLEUM had, now add that you are basically creating a SEWER for your snake to live in. Rocks have the same thermal properties as LINOLEUM, but now your snake can bury itself in dirty, bacteria-rich rock, rub his nose off trying to find a soft spot, and can bring the bacteria back and forth to the humid hide box. Problems, problems and more problems.
Again, you have to do whats best for the animal, NOT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE!! If you like what it looks like take a picture and hang it on the wall, if you want to keep a happy and healthy snake use or improve upon proven methods before venturing out on your own yet again. It seems like common sense to me and alot of guys here, I'm not sure what is in your head. You will soon be the owner of one of the best looking dead snakes around!

jeff schofield Aug 19, 2009 10:47 PM

Maybe you werent the one with the LINOLEUM, my bad. Kindly disregard the fervor but heed the advice, rocks are a bad substrate for the many reasons listed. Sorry again,lol.J

zach_whitman Aug 20, 2009 04:55 PM

Congrats oin finding your snake.

That does not look like stuck shed skin to me. It looks like healed burns. I would not expect the scars to ever go away. They should not effect him in any way though.

And I agree, those rocks are not the best substrate. If you really want to use gravel you can but I would use finer gravel than what you have there.

jazmaniandevil Aug 20, 2009 07:17 PM

Keep in mind that the graybanded is very tiny, about as big around as a sharpie pen. so the rocks are tiny. I'm switching back to my old substrate anyways. Thankyou for responding. Yes agreed I think they are burns or a scrape below the skin from something sharp. Anything could have happened in 10 months. But the flash washed her out and you can't see the shed between the scars. She's in the blue now, so hopefully we'll see.

DMong Aug 20, 2009 07:55 PM

You can also lubricate those areas just prior to shedding time with some Neosporine, or other similar antibiotic oitment. This will moisten the areas and also help with healing too.

This is something that will really help out with the shed getting off of those areas. Successive sheds(or even just parts) that stay on the animal can cause many problems.

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

jazmaniandevil Aug 20, 2009 09:00 PM

Thankyou! That's a great idea, I would have been scared to use a human ointment, and would have never thought of it myself. I shall try it.

DMong Aug 20, 2009 09:56 PM

You're welcome!

Oh,...something else you are sure to like as well, the ointment also helps prevent the new delicate scales that form just underneath from getting pulled off when the snake sheds. I have witnessed this myself too. I've had snakes that have started new scales, only to get torn off again and have to start the process all over again. Mineral oil helps with this too, probably even better, as it gets absorbed very easily through the shed skin.

take care, ~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

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