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I'm free today to browse the web. Interested in seeing some of what is labeled "Everglade's Ratsnakes".

Please, not here to debate anything about them Saw enough W/C many years ago. Curious to see pics though of those that still maintain a few "non het" individuals.

Thanks

You may have seen these already, but here's a nice male from a VERY red/orange locality(Hendry County, FL.) female.

He has really colored up nicely as he has matured. Additionally, he sports a solid red tongue as well.

and this last one, taken just minutes ago!

photo of Hendry County locality mother(taken be Mark Kenderdine)

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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Wow, I have not seen glades like that since the 80's. Now thats what I am talking about. Excellent...

Thanks, Rich!,....glad you like that sequence of pics!

You're right,...many you see anymore are very "so-so" examples, with lots of evidence of intergradation.

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Here is a pair I recently sold.

I have posted this guy several times before but I just love him. His color is a little softer now but he's fabulous. I think it's time for a fresher pic.

Wow!,.....both the hypo AND the other "pair" pics are really phenomenal!.....congrats on all those!

I want to find a mate similar to those when I go hunting down in Homestead with T. Crutchfield!

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Is the hypo a descendant from Bill Love's long ago hypo line?

thanks, ~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

but I am not the original owner. The guy who had him last just wasn't into Glades.

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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Did you have any background info. on the pair? Exceptional looking.

Rich Hebron

parents were through Marcia Lincoln. Not certain how many generations back.

I have not heard her name brought up in reference to these snakes for many years. I recall these were her passion. It has been said she had one excellent collection.

Here's a few of my male '06 that may already have shown here...

As a yearling

This year. He perches almost all the time. Very inquisitive. Has been an on/off feeder and only about 4 1/2 but very healthy. A very fine snake indeed!

Out for a spin...

Thanks for sharing.

I agree!,.that is a very nice one indeed!

Thanks for posting the pics!

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

>>I'm free today to browse the web. Interested in seeing some of what is labeled "Everglade's Ratsnakes".
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>>Please, not here to debate anything about them Saw enough W/C many years ago. Curious to see pics though of those that still maintain a few "non het" individuals.
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>>Thanks

here's one

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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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This pic was taken after I sent him to friend.
Makes me wish I would have kept him.

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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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That's yet another nice glades, Jimmy!

I also like the cute "expression" on it's face!..LOL!

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Glad so many still have interest in these guys. Thanks for the pic.

I like them all but rarely see any that I could call "true" or "pure"rossalleni.
Mine have more white on their chins than I'd like as most in the hobby do as well. Some have way too much white to even be considered 'glades yet are sold as such. You have to look them over carefully.
I'm hoping to eventually get what I want with them.
Hard to come by indeed.
Good luck.
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

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scar is from a wc lover...

:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

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Nice!,..is that the mother(Hendry County) of the male I got from you?

He looks pretty nice now, huh?

later, ~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Yeah that's her..She's still got a few good years in her I bet.
And yes, he's starting to look pretty good too
I've still got the lump on my head from whatever you hit me with when you stole him.
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

crimsonking.piczo.com/

HAHAHAHA!!,.........you know how things are nowadays,....SMASH & GRAB!..LOL!

thanks again!, ~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

...in your haste, you missed this guy!

check out the subtleties of color and intensity from the two locales in this snake...DeSoto and Okeechobee.

:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

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Very nice Mark!
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Todd Hughes

I can't quite remember now if I saw that gem there or not, but I certainly DO remember those nice hatchlings you had!

I recommended to Crutchfield to go score a few from ya' after he mentioned occipitolineata to me way over at his table.

I would have snatched those out from under him well before hand, but funds weren't my strong point that year, so I lead him over to you instead..LOL!. If that had been 2007 however, I would have scored all you could muster up. Sky was the limit that year..hahaha!

Great lookin' hues of brown/pinks in that one ,man!, as you know, some can be much more solid colored, especially inside the blotches.

later, man! ~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

...THAT guy was at home.
The ones you saw were from a recent wc (and new locale) Charlotte county male X DeSoto county female..
Maybe next year, I'll have a few clutches for ya to pick over???

:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

crimsonking.piczo.com/

Oh, okay,.

I'd just LOVE to get more of those, but I think I'm going to be really overwhelmed with these projects I already have going, not to mention all the friggin' hold-backs from all this stuff..LOL!

Yeah, I know,....famous last words!.......like Lays potato chips, just can't stop at one, or a couple hundred!..haha!

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

>>I'm free today to browse the web. Interested in seeing some of what is labeled "Everglade's Ratsnakes".
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>>Please, not here to debate anything about them Saw enough W/C many years ago. Curious to see pics though of those that still maintain a few "non het" individuals.
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>>Thanks

I have posted him before but this is a $20 pet store baby...now 7yrs or so and 6ft

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Sonya

I'm not mean. You're just a sissy.
Happy Bunny

Seven years and counting. Thats great. Typically people post pics of herps they keep for breeding up. To see one as a pet is excellent. A true herper. Thanks for posting.

Very nice!, can you post a pic of what he looks like now too?

I always enjoy seeing "then and now" photo's, and progression shot's of animals.

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

...geeez, did you score er what!!! I think that one's worth more pics

>>...geeez, did you score er what!!! I think that one's worth more pics

Well, when I got him he was a little dirt brown saddled pinkie eater. He has grown. I will see about time for new picts. My business is slowing down for the school year (boarding kennel) and I may actually have some time
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Sonya

I'm not mean. You're just a sissy.
Happy Bunny

Here's my male '08 hypo! Jeff

That thing is as clean as a whistle!

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Thanks Doug! He's actually a little bigger now!(old pic) Jeff

Jeff,.....

Yeah, it's amazing to see how fast some of them can grow too if given the right feeding plan.

Show us another pic of that nice one in the future!

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"