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New Sunglow Brooks king

Bluerosy Aug 31, 2009 08:52 PM

This is a female to go along with my male I hatched out last month .

Really cool hypo that ois possible het for Peanut Butter and lavender.


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Bluerosy Aug 31, 2009 09:02 PM

That pic is NOT a Sunglow. It is a hypo Peanut Butter (Hypo x Peanut Butter homozygot)
The Sunglow is a Hypo x T negative albino. Also known as a true hybino. But in cornskae and redtail boas the hypo x Amel is a Sunglow.

I have Sunglow pics coming.
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thomas davis Sep 01, 2009 12:29 AM

But in cornskae and redtail boas the hypo x Amel is a Sunglow.

i thought sunglow corns were albino crosses resulting from emoryiXguttata,could be wrong though. thought you were gonna call it something else...
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Bluerosy Sep 01, 2009 12:41 AM

But in cornskae and redtail boas the hypo x Amel is a Sunglow.

i thought sunglow corns were albino crosses resulting from emoryiXguttata,could be wrong though. thought you were gonna call it something else...
,,,,,,thomas

Actually another forum member here suggested the name (ZennyF)Sun Glow. I was going to call it a "true hybino".But he convinced me the name Sun Glow would be appropriate.

Any suggestions on any other names I should use? It could also be called "T neg hybino" which differentiates it from the Lavender T posite Hybino.

Either way HYBINO is the corect name. And as usual, somebody else used it on the wrong morph. The T positive (Lavender) hybino has been out for 9 years. So the name got taken.

It is not up to me to rename all of the morphs. But using Hybino would be confusing sine others with the T pos (lavender) hybino would not change the name.

See the perdicements i am in, producing all these new morphs. If i make up a goofy name, I hear about it. (aka Peanut Butter and Jelly). But even with the peanut butter name the "hypo" name was already taken. SO I asked forum members here to come up with a new name. People made oots of suggestions and then we voted on it. Peanut butter won by a landslide.
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Bluerosy Sep 01, 2009 12:43 AM

OMgosy,

ya, I forgot to post a pic of this mystery snake (T negative x hypo). All this talk and no pics. I will get some tommrorow.
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Jeff Schofield Sep 01, 2009 09:19 AM

Why not 2 types of Hybinos? Lav hybino and red hybino?? It would make things simpler anyways......

Jlassiter Sep 01, 2009 05:53 AM

>>But in cornskae and redtail boas the hypo x Amel is a Sunglow.
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>>i thought sunglow corns were albino crosses resulting from emoryiXguttata,could be wrong though. thought you were gonna call it something else...

I think an emoryi X guttata is called a creamsicle.

Sunglow is the same as a hybino in cornsnakes.....
BUT....There isn't a reduction in black pigment there is a reduction in pattern where the black is supposed to be....

SO...if there is a reduction in black pigment...does that make it a hypo? Applegate's pyros are not hypo nor are many thayeri with no black pattern.....
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Khaman Sep 01, 2009 10:40 AM

Actually in corns sunglows are just line bred amels with little or no white banding. Most hypo amels are sunglows just by default but, the big breeders all sold them as line bred amels that may or may not be hypos.

I think sunglow or sun glow or sun glo works. A trade name for one species does not have to correspond with another. It might be nice to keep it simple but, what happens when another gene comes along that makes a better sunglow? We find another trade name that describes the same attributes and accept that.

I personally prefer T- Hybino

DMong Sep 01, 2009 12:43 PM

Yeah,...100% accurate!

Here is a perfect example of what is now coined "Sunglow". This beautiful hulking example had ZERO white scales on his body. I cherry-picked through a huge pile of neonates almost twenty years ago to get this pair. He came from a large clutch of regular amels, so there was no hypomelanism involved with this snake whatsoever, at least not from the gene being introduced from a breeder. As mentioned, the hypo gene wasn't necessary to produce these, but it is common to have the hypo gene in many "Sunglows" produced today. This animal was produced well before the term "Sunglow" was ever even thought of.

Below this pic is also a pic of his typical looking sibling.


and really nice alterna produced by Steve Strasser many years ago to stay in kingsnake theme

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Bluerosy Sep 01, 2009 01:21 PM

"I personally prefer T- Hybino"

I agree. Either that or "True Hybino".

..But the SunGlow name is better for marketing.

I have still yet to post a pic of this animal.

The pics I posted abouve are from a Peanut Butter Hypo ..or "Hypo Peanut Butter" (PB X Hypo homozygot). I really like these and wish there was a better name for it.

Anyone have any suggestions?
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thomas davis Sep 01, 2009 01:34 PM

The pics I posted abouve are from a Peanut Butter Hypo ..or "Hypo Peanut Butter" (PB X Hypo homozygot). I really like these and wish there was a better name for it.

Anyone have any suggestions?
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ok
howsa bout peanut brittle or candy peanuts or maybe organic pb, oooh oooh peanutglo
need some marmalades as well...

,,,,,thomas
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Bluerosy Sep 01, 2009 01:54 PM

LOL! TRhat was hlarious vid.

Actaully I think it is best to move away from any food names for Florida kings. PB & Jelly will be it.

So far with new names we have :

Phantom-great name for a PB x Anery
Peabino-PB x Lavender albino
Jelly-morph direved out of the T- and PB in the first gen. Deserves it own unusual name.
Pewter- In a class all its own.

Need names for :
Hypo Peanut Butter (PB x hypo homo)

Blizzard- triple homo snow white (T negative x Ghost)
NOT SURE IF BLIZZARD IS THE RIGHT NAME???

T-NEG X hypo-aka true hybino or T-hybino
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thomas davis Sep 01, 2009 04:09 PM

Actaully I think it is best to move away from any food names for Florida kings. PB & Jelly will be it.

geez, what fun is that

killjoy

,,,,,,,thomas
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Morphs... just like baseball cards BUT ALIVE, how cool is that???

my website www.barmollysplace.com

ChristopherD Sep 01, 2009 01:54 PM

all i saw were the dreaded (red X) pic AARRRGGGhhh!

>>>Anyone have any suggestions?

....Creamy Peanut Butter......
hypoPB describes it

Bluerosy Sep 01, 2009 01:57 PM

Chris,
I want to get away from the food related names unless Hypo Peanut butter is used.
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ChristopherD Sep 01, 2009 02:06 PM

I agree i was never very keen on the PB name but KS community has accepted it ,and they (we the people)know kinda what you are refering to!
if you have creamy pb, you can cross one to an Eastern and call it CRUNCHY

Nokturnel Tom Sep 01, 2009 01:57 PM

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Bluerosy Sep 01, 2009 02:14 PM

NP
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Nokturnel Tom Sep 01, 2009 05:21 PM

It is simple, catchy, and will be memorable....
Got any HPBs?
sounds good to me......
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Jlassiter Sep 01, 2009 02:34 PM

You need a new "hip" name like P-glo butter....
Or PBH.....
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Bluerosy Sep 01, 2009 02:53 PM

Posted by: Jlassiter at Tue Sep 1 14:34:30 2009 [ Report Abuse ] [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by Jlassiter ] Share

You need a new "hip" name like P-glo butter....
Or PBH.....

Ya, I agree. But I have many new morphs coming out soon. Some are triple homos. They will need the unusual names. Like a Mosaic x T neg x ghost= "Earthquake king".

lol, just kidding. But i do wish all morphs from different snakes would be unified with the proper names. For instance a ghost in Rosy boas is not a Ghost (Axanthic x Hypo) at all but a just a hypo. And so on and so on...
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JTColubrids Sep 01, 2009 05:50 PM

I like True Hybino for the t neg x hypo, and True Blizzard for the sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet t neg x ghost because wouldnt a blizzard be a lav x ghost homozygot? And carmel hypo, PBH, or super hypo for the hypo x pb. Just my opinion, and Rainer, PEWTERS RULE!!!!!!!

Nokturnel Tom Sep 01, 2009 09:38 AM

I bet that snake looks way cooler in person, should be fun to watch those grow up.
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