Reptile & Amphibian Forums

Is it possible to have a hypo Okeetee? I was under the impression that okeetees were characterized by thick black borders around the saddles...but hypo implies reduced black. How can a corn be both?? I saw a "hypo okeetee" for sale in a local petshop and was curious about this one...can anybody explain this to me?

Thanks!

~Kristine

Kristine,

You are correct... the hypo gene would reduce the amount of black on an Okeetee. A hypo Okeetee does look distinctly different than a regular hypo corn though, so its important to distinguish between the two. To confuse matters, there are two different hypo genes that have popped up in the Okeetee line, so breeding two hypo Okeetees from different lines together might produce non-hypo Okeetees!

Here is a photo of my hypo Okeetee female:

-----
Ronda Van Winkle
Northwest Herpetoculture

so its kinda funny why they have hypo okeetees.....if u think about it, a "hypo okeetee" might just be a normal corn.
-----
"Isn't it funny you hear a phone ring and it could be anybody, but a ringing phone has to be answered doesn't it?"

if u think about it, a "hypo okeetee" might just be a normal corn.

Did the photo of my hypo Okeetee look like a normal corn to you? I'm not trying to be argumentative, just curious. I don't think hypo Okeetees resemble normal corns, or even hypo corns, at all.

True, many people buy Okeetees because of their thick black borders, so if that is what you're drawn to, then I'd recommend against buying a hypo Okeetee. You can say the same about many different morphs... people like anerys because of the black blotches. Creating a hypo anery removes that quality. Hypo is going to change the look of just about every morph: Miami becomes crimson, amels become sunglow, anerys become ghosts... and Okeetees become hypo Okeetees (sometimes called a sunkissed Okeetee). So many colors, so little space in my snake room!

-----
Ronda Van Winkle
Northwest Herpetoculture

nooooooooooo, if you think about it, its definately not a normal corn. Its a HYPO OKEETEE. Since okettee is a locational thing and Hypo is a genetic thing, its not normal even if you consider okeetees "normal" If you think the photo that Ronda put up looks normal you really dont know corns. Thats not to say anything other than that is one beautiful snake. I dont know Pythons, we all have our strengths right?
-----
honesty is my only policy

np

You’re absolutely right. Bold black borders are a desirable and defining characteristic of the Okeetee corn. Other sought after traits are deep-brick-red saddles and a clean orange background color with no hint of longitudinal striping similar to that seen on yellow ratsnakes (Pantherophis obsoleta quadrivittata). Okeetees also tend to be robust, sturdy, large corns that are robust feeders. A good classic Okeetee corn possesses all of these characteristics.

Regards,
WK

Is that thing for real?!?

np

Thats why I picked up this Love line Okeetee. Seen alot of animals people call okeetees but very few like this one.

Ronda is that one from the Love line or is it one of mine? BTW hows that red bull doing?

Hi Tony,

These hypos are out of the Love line. I produce that female accidentally several years ago from Love Okeetees. Actually, I believe I talked to you about hypo Okeetees when I attended Daytona in '01... Anyway, the hypo gene in this line corresponds to an evil streak like nothing I've ever seen in corns. They strike and fail, but their Okeetee siblings have the typical docile corn temperament. Do yours have that same drawback?

The red bulls are doing fantastic! They both shed recently, and eat like there's no tomorrow. I'll keep you updated with photos as they grow. Thank you for those beauties!

Cheers,
Ronda

-----
Ronda Van Winkle
Northwest Herpetoculture

Glad to here the bulls are doing well and look forward to the pics.

As for temerment problems with my hypo Okeetees (dream strain) I haven't noticed any problem. They are typical laid back corns. I really hope to improve on the strain in the next couple of years. Last year I outbred the dream strain to a nice wc Okeetee and this year it was crossed to Howie Shermans "Super" Okeetee line. At the Daytona show this year I also picked up a pair of Lee Abotts Okees as well as a female from the Love line. I shoulldn't have to worry about line breeding or inbreeding depression for some time to come.

n/p
-----
~redmom~
My Email
Herps:
1.0 Normal corn snake "Ed"

Others:
1.0 Blue Male Betta fish "'Beta' test"
0.1 White/Lemon/beige splotched and spotted hound mix "Angel"

Human pets:
2.0 Children "Matthew" 7 yrs, "Duncan" > 1 yr
1.0 Hubby "Roger"

Some people's attraction to Okeetee is the brilliant orange. You won't see that kind of orange on a "normal" corn. even when it has the thick borders, or is amelanistic, it's still extremely orange.
-----
Dianne
AKA IcedGoddess
0.1 Snow (Ruby)
1.0 Anery A (Breaden)
0.1 Amel (Edana)
0.0.7 Normal het-snow (no names yet)
1.1 Bloodred (Vlad the Impailer and Natasha)
0.1 Anery Stripe (Morticia)
1.0 Candy Cane (Kane)

1.3 Cats (Alexys{f}, Mikki{f}, Timothy{m}, Seven{f})
0.1 Child
1.0 Boyfriend
IcedGoddess Creations
Castle Serpents