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If you'll remember, I mention previously how i stupidly threw a female knob into my male Applegate pyro's drawer by mistake. Here's a sampling of a couple of the intergrade offspring.

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Brad Chambers
WWW.HCU-TX.ORG

The Avalanche has already started-it is too late for the pebbles to vote....

Beautiful animals. Some of the "Santa Rita" pyros out there really look questionable as to being pure pyros versus unknowingly mixed. Would be interesting to know the exact history of that line.

Some flyboys from a local Tucson airbase where walking down a trail when our paths crossed. They had a pyro in a jar. They said they found it swimming across a pool of water. I asked them what were they going to do with it and they said, "let it go". That's when I broke down, got on my knees and started begging that they give it me...sobbing at the same time. Just kidding. I asked them if I could have it and they gave it to me. I kept it for a while (it was a male) and then gave it to someone else because pyros do nothing for me. Anyway, that wc pyro had lateral markings reminiscent of knoblocki.

Robert

I produced an applegate pyro a few years ago that has lateral striping. It was sired by a pyro from Applegate himself bred to a female het from Howie Sherman. No knob blood in the mix. I'm not sure how common it is in northern populations, but I remember someone in CA was selectivly breeding for that trait from Chiricahua founders. I think they may have been from Cave Creek too...

Note that Cave Canyon is on the east side of the Santa Rita Mts.
I think that day we also saw two male blacktails battling each other right there on the trail.

Robert

OK, I was thinking Cave Creek in the "cherry cows". How do you expect a TX boy to keep your AZ locales stright? They're a beautiful exotic to me

Here's one from Cave Canyon in the Santa Ritas. There are definitely some pyros from that canyon with lateral striping.

Greg Huston

I thought this was the alterna forum

Well that makes me feel better. Thanks for the pics. I was almost sure there was something funny going on with the "Santa Rita" "Baubel" pyros being real pyro pyro or locality snakes- not knowingly of course. Not meaning to question anyone working with those lines but it has made me wonder some over the last several years.

So if you're not in to Pyros, why the hell did you beg for it Pelaez??? DUUUUUUUUUUUDE!!!!! The you gave it away? What the hell's wrong with you?

Wayne

They'd probably do more for me if they didn't carry a stigma. The stigma is that the snake belongs to the government of Arizona while I live under the state laws. It doesn't really belong to me. Son, we have gone over this before-lol. I can't sell it or it's offspring. I can't trade it or it's offspring. I can't keep a gila monster, or a beaded lizard, or one of the five or so pictigasters, or ten or more lepidus I saw in Texas this last trip because they're non-native AND venomous. You boys didn't know how good you had it before that inexplicable law passed.

Robert