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Has anyone ever bred two males to a female and had any of the offspring paradox with both traits? not saying spider and lesser x pastel making a queen bee, I'm saying produce a bumble bee with lesser paradoxing on it? Is it possible for the two genes to get one egg but not produce twins?

More to the point I think you are asking is: is it possible for two sperm to fertilize a single egg and have it survive? Usually when this happens in nature (and I mostly know this about mammals, not reptiles) if this happens it will either kill the embryo, one of the two sets of male-provided DNA will be rejected. It has never been confirmed that twinning could occur from this process.

If, in Ball Pythons, two separately fathered snakes hatched from the same egg, it is most likely that the two separate embryos were encased in a single shell. Not that they arose from a single dual-fathered embryo.

Now to answer you question: Don't know. Seems unlikely though.
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.technically...NO

but....twins from one egg cell that splits into two snakes,possible....one egg with 2 embryos inside one shell, happens enough.....one egg fertilized by 2 sperm and it survives with both genes visible in the offspring....?....99.9999% sure NO, BUT IF people believe in parthenogenisis....I would believe it could happen too.....anything could happen....like the human with their undeveloped twin inside them for years and they didn't know it....ouch....what's that smell...?....anything can happen.........right......
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did i hear BBQ????

Pitoon

.today, be at my parent's home at 5pm est......

I'll grill it...you kill it or pick it off the road,,,,''hint....in my yard right now there are at least 2 rabbits ,6 squirrels and a whistle pig.....(walnuts and apples all over).......gotta catch 'em.....

.....twins.....usually my thought is...that twins ans 2 ovum in one shell, ...and I do not believe in snake parthenogenisis either.....my thoughts.....

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tell you what.........next time i go to the states i'll pass by PA and we can meet up to do a real BBQ.

i'll buy the meat you grill it!!!

Pitoon

in mammals, particularly in humans there have been cases of individuals with two different sets of DNA, it is believed that during the early stages of fertilization two fraternal twins fuse together and create one individual which is called a CHIMERA, after the greek mythological beast that was a composite of several different animals. i don't know if chimerism has been reported in reptiles. in reptile twins i would think that they have to be identical twins since they would be the result of a fertilized egg splitting in two inside the shell, but i don't know, maybe it is possible that two fertilized eggs get enclosed in the same shell, in which case it could be possible that two embrios with different genetic makeup get fused and create a chimera ; this could be the reason for a paradox....who knows?...i am sure somebody out there knows much more that i do on this.
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