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Hi,

this picture is a comparison between one of the normal looking ones to one of the "hypos"

best,

Steven

Very nice! It's almost "anery"!

thank you, that´s what I´ve thought too.

very nice looking. Looks like some kind of hypo, very reduced reds. Looking forward to seeing if it colors up or gets even lighter in color, as it ages.
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PHLdyPayne

Hey Steven, Like we've discussed this is a very cool baby, and yeah likely a morph but IMO from what I see in the pics, not a hypo. Hypo is a clear reduction in the black and that baby has sharp, dark outlines still. IMO is something new and have no idea what to call it. As it grows up may become more apparent.

Will be very interesting to see how this works out over time
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (05/26/2009):
36.51 BRB
29.42 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

but of course only time will tell and only breeding one to the existing hypo line will determine if it's "hypo" or not.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (05/26/2009):
36.51 BRB
29.42 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

"but of course only time will tell and only breeding one to the existing hypo line will determine if it's "hypo" or not"

i dont necessarily agree with that Dave, breeding it to the existing hypo line, will only determine whether it is compatible with that particular line or not. Surely holding back all the unique animals from this clutch, breeding together, and back to the parents is the best course of action.
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Dave

13.19 brbs

Hi,

you are right, they are not exactly looking like hypomelanistic. Therefore I put hypo in quotes.

To me they look like hypoerytristic.

thanks,

Steven

Hey Steven
This is the closest comparison that i have to your snakes.
The top picture, shows a normal on the left, and 2 animals in the tub on the right, one of which was born extremely pale, almost lacking pigment.
The next photo is how it looks now.
The interesting thing that i see about both our animals, is that on mine, he has a very busy head pattern, and on yours its an extremely reduced pattern, although its appears most of your clutch did.
See you at Hamm!!


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Dave

13.19 brbs

Hi Dave,

unfortunately I cannot open your pics, because the firewall of my employer does not allow it (Photobucket is censored).

I will take a look at it, when I am back at home.

See you Hamm,

Steven

if I had to guess on this lighter animal, I would guess that there was an expression of some colombian genes. The patterning, head pattern and especially the side crescents lean toward the patterning of colombian rainbowboas...There are not defined borders between the different groups of rainbowboas, and integrades are common....even if your BRB adults look pure...I would bet that this baby had a few CRB genes lining up. It looks really cool though.

I will try to post a post looking for BRB/CRB crosses.

Thanks, BHH
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Bryan Hummel
www.rainbowboas.com

man that thing is smokin hot. very cool lookin snake. i wouldnt mins seein pics of the whole litter and cant wait to see it as it ages.

Hi,

I think I have a picture of the litter right after birth, I will look for it this evening.

thanks,

Steven

Very pretty snake Steven. Congratulations! My money is on that being a hypo. Are the parents of the clutch siblings?
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Mike Lockwood
www.tooscaley.com

Hi Mike,

Yes the parents are siblings, and they are f1 offspring from wildcaught animals. The interesting thing is that the mother of this litter is 11 years old and this has been her first litter with nice babies. Last year she produced only slugs.

best,

Steven

This sounds similar to what happened with my first clutch of Brazilians back in 1994. In fact, I think I also had 4 hypos born to a clutch from two f1 sibs.

My first (and second) batch of hypos had digestive issues. They were prone to regurgitations. I certainly don't wish this on you but I'm curious to see if you experience the same thing. Keep the pictures coming. I'm thinking the oranges will increase with time.
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Mike Lockwood
www.tooscaley.com

Where are you located?
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Mike Lockwood
www.tooscaley.com

Hi Mike,

so far all juvies took and digested at least five meals without problems. So I am confident that there will be no problems in the future.

I am located in the southwest of Germany.

best,

Steven

WOW, very cool!!! Please keep us updated on how that project goes!
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Aubrey Ross

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