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Why are these guys so hard to find on the market? They seem like a very nice snake. Anyone have any pics to share of their animals? I'd love to see what types people are working with out there, and what locals. Thanks!
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0.1 Northern Bull
1.0 Texas Red Bull
0.1 Kansas Yellow Bull
1.1 Red X Yellow Bulls
1.0 Medicine Hat, Alberta, Canada Bull
1.1 Carolina Northern Pines (M from NC, F from SC)
1.1 Henderson County, NC Black Rats
1.1 Gray Banded 'Blair's' Kings
1.2 Coastal Cal Kings
1.1 Speckled Kings, Harris County, TX
1.1 Eastern Chain Kings (M from Union County NC & F from NC)
1.0 Hogg Island Boa
1.2 Ball Pythons

Yes,...I've noticed the very same thing over MANY years. This certainly seems to be one of the less coveted getula in the hobby for some reason.

While it's true that certain populations might not be quite as pretty as some others, especially some of the intergrades, the nicer, more solid black form such as this handsome specimen from Kentucky you would at least think would be seen more often in collections, and would find hatchlings offered from time to time.....kind'a weird?

~Doug

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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Man that is nice! Love the white chin. This discussion reminds me of a thought I had the other day at the Anaheim show...someday it will be the native morphs that are extremely rare and highly sought...sort of a sad irony.

>> "someday it will be the native morphs that are extremely rare and highly sought...sort of a sad irony."

Those have been my very thoughts for a long time now.

Sure, certain genetic morphs are cool and interesting, and I have a variety of some of them too, but so are many of the normal wild phenotypes that are basically looked at now as less desirable, or "junk" to many now. This attitude seems to be even more prevalent with many of the newer people I see involved in the hobby. To me, alot of this does not really mean "progress" at all.

best regards, ~Doug

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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

I damn sure hope so, that's what floats my boat!
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Todd Hughes

Darn thats pretty!
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0.1 Northern Bull
1.0 Texas Red Bull
0.1 Kansas Yellow Bull
1.1 Red X Yellow Bulls
1.0 Medicine Hat, Alberta, Canada Bull
1.1 Carolina Northern Pines (M from NC, F from SC)
1.1 Henderson County, NC Black Rats
1.1 Gray Banded 'Blair's' Kings
1.2 Coastal Cal Kings
1.1 Speckled Kings, Harris County, TX
1.1 Eastern Chain Kings (M from Union County NC & F from NC)
1.0 Hogg Island Boa
1.2 Ball Pythons

Man what I wouldn't pay for something like that.
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Steve W.

I think most people prefer an all-black snake (MBK). There are other types of kings that have not caught on as well - speckleds come to mind as well as Florida Kings (before they were reclassified as intergrades). To some extent, the market dictates what's being bred.

About 15 years ago it was very difficult to find eastern kings, though now there are several good captive bred sources for them. So times can change.

Tim

I like those kings,,,when I was a kid in Kentucky I used to catch them all the time,,and never got bit,,,some where pretty big. Maybe they will catch on,,,
Going back home in a cou[ple weeks, maybe I will find some.
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Jungle Carpet Python 1.0
Eastern King 0.1
Mexican Black King
Great Basin Gopher
Hypo Brooks 1.0
White Sided Bull 1.0 (Envy)
Striped Pacific Gopher (Envy)
Axanthic Brooksi 0.1 (Mark Kenderdine)
Goini King 1.0 (Mark Kenderdine)
Northern Pine 1.0 (Nick Puder)
Arizona Mtn. King 1.0 (AAM Snakes)

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Found a source for Todd County KY snakes, anyone have any photos of that local? I checked the blackking website photos and no luck. Can anyone show me an adult? Thanks for all of your thoughts
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0.1 Northern Bull
1.0 Texas Red Bull
0.1 Kansas Yellow Bull
1.1 Red X Yellow Bulls
1.0 Medicine Hat, Alberta, Canada Bull
1.1 Carolina Northern Pines (M from NC, F from SC)
1.1 Henderson County, NC Black Rats
1.1 Gray Banded 'Blair's' Kings
1.2 Coastal Cal Kings
1.1 Speckled Kings, Harris County, TX
1.1 Eastern Chain Kings (M from Union County NC & F from NC)
1.0 Hogg Island Boa
1.2 Ball Pythons

Here's a nice four-footer from near Louisville, KY. I have a soft spot for eastern black kings--one of them was the first king i ever found, as a kid.

BTW, the Louisville Herp Society invited me to join them last summer for their annual snake count: this snake was one of the critters that turned up. Phil P., if you're seeing this, i'd love to be invited again next year!

Ok, I have to get a pair now! These KY types look great!
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0.1 Northern Bull
1.0 Texas Red Bull
0.1 Kansas Yellow Bull
1.1 Red X Yellow Bulls
1.0 Medicine Hat, Alberta, Canada Bull
1.1 Carolina Northern Pines (M from NC, F from SC)
1.1 Henderson County, NC Black Rats
1.1 Gray Banded 'Blair's' Kings
1.2 Coastal Cal Kings
1.1 Speckled Kings, Harris County, TX
1.1 Eastern Chain Kings (M from Union County NC & F from NC)
1.0 Hogg Island Boa
1.2 Ball Pythons