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As the subject of striped Pacific's came up in one of the topics below and as some of the locality and other morphs are visually sensational (to say the least), does anyone have any photos that they would care to share? The two published in Mara, 1994 look awesome in basic earth-tone colors. I have seen others that are yellowish and even orange-red. Please post some pics of yours...

Thanks,

The Pit fan...

Some old pics

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Thanks Jason, that snake is a beaut... Thanks for all of the photos...

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I just thought I would share this pic even know its not Pacific Gopher.

Jason

Man, do you have some nice snakes!!!

That's the one! Post some pics as it matures. Would love to see the color/pattern combo on that snake at four-five feet...

The Pit fan

Generally speaking the really high color individuals of striped phase "pacific gopher snakes" that you see in the pet trade are annectans/catenifer crosses. Although, there probably are likely exceptions to this rule.

I have never been able to find normal, not het for anything, non-outcrossed, locality striped phase Pacific gopher snakes available in the pet trade.

Sounds like a worthy project looking at the example on page 60 in Mara, 1994. I would absolutely love to have a striped normal with the definition and colors (even basic earth-tones)as the snake in that photo.

I have hunted the area around Folsom Reservoir (NE of Sacramento) and have found some very nice typical (blotched) Pacific's but never any striped. They seem to be somewhat localized and I have heard of striped individuals from Yolo County, west and northwest of Sacramento and down in parts of Solano and Contra Costa Counties to the southwest. Happy hunting and I hope you find some...

The Pit fan

I hear what your saying. Alot people dont care and mix the two together. I have allways been careful and never mixed the two speices.
Here is comparison shot. San Diegos tend to have bolder strips and background patterns where the Pacicfic are more speckled. Another note is San Diego's stripping gene is simple recessive and the Pacific's stripping gene is co-dominate.

I know your wanting info on localitys Ginter and I know you already know about this stuff I posted. I just wanted to share some info and pics.

Jason

Wow, great post guys! Good information in this post.

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jason.....

thanks for the info.

I actually did not know that it was a co-dom in the one ssp. That makes sense and also makes it easier to track lineages.

you have some very nice looking groups!

cheers, ginter

Who took over with the gopher projects left behind by Lloyd Lemke? He produced some remarkable "high color" SDGs (both typical and striped).