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I was browsing around and took notice of red milksnakes.I have never seen this milk in person so I was wondering if anyone is keeping/breeding this species. I figured from the description of the milk that the would be similar to Louisiana milks and scarlet kings in terms of captive care. That is most likely the reason I have not heard them discussed before.

If anyone could offer a bit more info concerning the subspecies, I would love to hear some stories about seeing them in the field and/or keeping them captive.
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-Daniel Hill

Dan,
There are a few of us that are aficionados of the Red milksnake, L.t. syspila. If someone hasn't responded to you in a few days, I'll try and answer you questions when I have more time.

-Dell

-Dell

...........Jeff Hardwick special in there!..LOL!

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Thanks for sharing those pictures.

I didn't really have that many questions. Just wondering the reason why I haven't seen many of these beautiful snakes around...now I know why!!...you guys are keeping them all to yourselves
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-Daniel Hill

Well the real reason is that too many keepers see snake breeding as a way to MAKE MONEY not for the ponzi scheme that it can be. Red milks are common, easily found in the right areas, and very pretty/variable snakes. The babies are very small and difficult to raise to adulthood. It takes such a long time that the keepers that do dont let the adults go. Babies are "relatively" cheap because they are common, adults are impossible to get. Add to that now they are being "regulated" by the states they are found so breeders are afraid of legal ramifications. There are hundreds of breeders of Honduran milks, less than 10 for most NA ssp.. They arent for beginners, but they are worth working with.

All that was right on the money.

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

10.....????......you mean if I hurry I can be number 11?....LOL

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........JY
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take off your shoes to count that high...LMAO

still as intelligent as ever I see...........

maybe I'd just get you to open your mouth......?

........right level?

.......it was a joke...when I hatch 50 reds and 30-40 temps and a dozen and a half pales I'll just send them to you bro....

............aaaaaaaaaaand I'll send you a batch of HONDOS! for good measure.......!!!!!!!!!!
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........JY
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JOKES" Rodney Dangerfield. Ya, not me, been down that road before and being "stuck" with 50 baby NA milks is AWFUL. They are a full time job without the rest of the collection! I've had Hondos before, had an original WC back in the 80s when you had a hard time getting pairs. I just cringe at being a little kid and growing up going to SHOWS instead of running around outside and FINDING snakes.

Daniel,

As Dell said, there are several folks out there working with them. They are difficult to get started as neonates- I think that's what you were referring to when comparing them to LA milks or scarlet kings? once you get them going them are great. In fact, a yearling pair that I have can't seem to get enough food and are hogs!

These came from Cole and are fantastic.

Dave

DNS Reptiles

Thanks for sharing. My interest is definately peaked now that I know CBB specimens may be available. I definately don't have the time to go looking for them elsewhere.

Yes, I was comparing neonate size to that of LA milks and scarlet kings. Seems I am drawn to these small species for some reason....ha ha...fun for me
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-Daniel Hill

Those are truly some of the nicest ones I have ever seen!

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Daniel,

There are a number of us who work with the smaller, North American forms. I replied to your PM on the "other" forum. Sorry for the short reply - I'll try to provide a more detailed response this evening.

-Cole

They're great pet snakes. I've bred them and the only thing the neonates would eat was baby lizards - which is too much hassle for me.

Tim

Third Eye