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For my buddies..some pix

Nokturnel Tom Sep 18, 2009 03:44 PM

Eastern X Brooksi, how about these aberrant patterns?!?!?!










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MikeMurphy Sep 18, 2009 03:52 PM

Nice Tom. Are those all from the same clutch? Very cool. Must have been cool to watch those eggs hatch.

Nokturnel Tom Sep 19, 2009 10:29 AM

Yes sir that is one clutch. The same as crossing Goini with Brooksi, the colors and patterns are capable of creating some crazy looks. Next year I am breeding a Hypo cross to the het Hypo cross female...
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Bluerosy Sep 18, 2009 03:53 PM

yeah getting some funky ones!~~

This is an old pic from years ago:

Is that my line of muttlys? If so have you ever gotten a white one like this?

I wonder about this all the time because for two years in a row i would get melanistic ones and these ghostish looking ones.. This could not have come from my hypo so the melanistic trait must have come from the easterns.
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Nokturnel Tom Sep 19, 2009 10:30 AM

I remember that snake well, though the top pic didnt show up? The one striped one in the pic is a little similar, wont know til they shed for sure
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DMong Sep 18, 2009 04:25 PM

Wow!,...what a diverse medley of looks bro!

Was there a "known" hypo trait involved there, or did those two just happen to pop out like that?

It's interesting that just those TWO also have the weird labyrinth type look too!

~Doug
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DMong Sep 18, 2009 04:27 PM

I meant more than just two there..(3 or 4)

but statement still applies..LOL!

~Doug
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Nokturnel Tom Sep 19, 2009 10:32 AM

The parents were known to be het Hypo, they're what unofficially were called Muttlys, and that name stuck. Makes me think of that cartoon the Wacky Racers with Dick Dastardly and his dog Muttly haha remember that?
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DMong Sep 19, 2009 11:57 AM

That's some funny stuff!..LOL! I remember all that stuff well!

Do you have any "Penelope Pitstop" king's??..hahaha!

~Doug

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Nokturnel Tom Sep 19, 2009 12:03 PM

HAHA! Remember that guy Clunk who was the mechanic and made all the kooky sounding words haha!
What was that show called....the Wacky Racers???
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DMong Sep 19, 2009 12:36 PM

I think it was this dude!..LOL!

~Doug
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DMong Sep 19, 2009 12:42 PM

yes,..close, it was actually called "Wacky Races"!

remember this hillbilly contraption?..LOL!

~Doug

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Joe_M Sep 19, 2009 02:57 PM

Funny Stuff! Coincidentally my kids were watching Boom this morning and Whacky Races was on. I love watching those old cartoons with my kids, bring back lots of memories.

I was thinking the same thing (in reverse) when I saw the hooded claw and muttley, lol!
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DMong Sep 19, 2009 03:42 PM

LOL!, Most of that stuff is even much funnier to us NOW as adult's, than as kid's,...as I'm sure you know!..LOL!

Here's some of the other character's that got together as a group just before they embarked out on a cool floridana snake-hunt!..LOL!

~Doug

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Jlassiter Sep 18, 2009 05:30 PM

Those are awesome....I wonder what they will look like as adults.
Any ideas?
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Bluerosy Sep 18, 2009 06:24 PM

first like this :

and then like this....

This was when i used to use a cheapo digital camera that actually had a good macro setting. All the newer ones under $200. wash out yellows and reds.
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Jlassiter Sep 18, 2009 06:51 PM

Yeah....But Tom's has cooler aberrant patterns than THOSE....LOL
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John Lassiter

"Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part....."

Bluerosy Sep 18, 2009 07:13 PM

Yeah....But Tom's has cooler aberrant patterns than THOSE....LOL

Sorry i was just sharing what they look like as adults. Pretty nice, eh?.. I think the ones he is working with came from me and they all throw different abberancies.

They started off with a breeding a Bumblee eastern to a hypo brooks. That is when i got this:

The aberancies don't come not in the first gen but second and thrird generation . I learned this from working with hybrids as well as these unatural crosses.

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Jlassiter Sep 18, 2009 07:51 PM

Aberrancies and such come not only from crosses or hybrids, but from line breeding as well....


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John Lassiter

"Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part....."

Nokturnel Tom Sep 19, 2009 11:28 AM

You'll start an inbreeding is bad thread! LOL
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DMong Sep 18, 2009 07:30 PM

Rainer,..did you go through the instructions real well to see if there is light compensator settings?. Mine has "settings for.."daylight","cloudy","tungsten", "fluorescent", "fluorescent H". "underwater", etc...Many times the camera's have them, but unless you stumble upon it by accident, or really look good through all the feature's they have in the manual, it can never be discovered. It took me a good while to finally discover mine and experiment with it.

Now I can take some pretty sweet shot's in most any kind of lighting situations, whereas before, many shot's often came out all sorts of weird un-true colors that where horrible representations of what the animal should have actually looked like. Ther's even many different setting's for the amount of flash on a bunch of them too. At least with mine there is.

I'm pretty darn happy with mine now after finally getting pretty familiar with it.

~Doug
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Bluerosy Sep 18, 2009 07:58 PM

Rainer,..did you go through the instructions real well to see if there is light compensator settings?. Mine has "settings for.."daylight","cloudy","tungsten", "fluorescent", "fluorescent H". "underwater", etc...Many times the camera's have them, but unless you stumble upon it by accident, or really look good through all the feature's they have in the manual, it can never be discovered. It took me a good while to finally discover mine and experiment with it.

Now I can take some pretty sweet shot's in most any kind of lighting situations, whereas before, many shot's often came out all sorts of weird un-true colors that where horrible representations of what the animal should have actually looked like. Ther's even many different setting's for the amount of flash on a bunch of them too. At least with mine there is.

I'm pretty darn happy with mine now after finally getting pretty familiar with it.

Thanks Doug! My camera does have those and more settings. They are to complicated for me. I had a DSL and took it back because of that.

I guess I should do more experiments with this sony to see if a setting can add more yellow and reds. The "auto" setting sure washes them out.
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DMong Sep 18, 2009 09:24 PM

Exactly,...I was using "auto" for almost all my stuff a long while back, but then I discovered the "program" feature that lets you do ALL SORTS OF STUFF!!!I could not believe what I was friggin' missing the whole time, since then, pics are WAY better quality!

Try it out, you will see the diff!

~Doug
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Bluerosy Sep 18, 2009 10:45 PM

hmmmm. okay I will try them out.

But some are for low light, bluer water ect. Is there any setting that seems to work better for you?
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DMong Sep 18, 2009 11:46 PM

Well, for most of the inside stuff, I turn the knob at the top of my Canon to "program" instead of "auto", then most of the time use either "tugsten", or "fluorescent", and those setting's seem to work real well for me, but of course, different camera's have different things, so who knows. But when I started turning things to stuff other than just "auto", I could control things alot better.

For just taking general pics like at a picnic or something, "auto" would usually be a decent all-around setting maybe, but for some of this real close, crucial color stuff us snake guy's do, it seems that experimenting with results from other settings does much better at times. Also, I notice the looks in the monitor screen totally changing as the different settings are clicked, and it can sometimes give you an idea of what it is doing, and what the results might be as well.

But at least with digital's, you don't waste a ton of money on film!..LOL!

A while back, I just sat at the computer while going through some of the different settings and just aimed it at anything at all on the table and started taking pics, like of cigarette packs, batteries, etc, to see what would happen at different settings so I didn't waste my time with actual snakes getting them out and getting them positioned just right, etc... just to pissed to find out the pic looked more orange than it was supposed to be, or whatever because of a wrong setting. By the time I started finding out what the results were to some of these simple objects lying around, and comparing focus and color, etc..I could THEN go brake out a snake, and feel pretty confident that things would be set pretty good when it came to the actual snake, see what I mean?.

Anyway, after remembering some of these settings I discovered a while back, things are much better, it just takes some fiddling around like I mentioned. Now, I can take pretty good shots at will, even real tight stuff.

good luck!, ~Doug
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Bluerosy Sep 19, 2009 08:08 AM

I turn the knob at the top of my Canon to "program" instead of "auto", then most of the time use either "tugsten", or "fluorescent", and those setting's seem to work real well for me

Coool! My camera has a "program" button. Never thought Of trying it. DUH!

I did experiment with the other simple setting besides the "program" button. Like Low light, Overcast, snow , beach, ect. I guess i was trying the wrong things.

Thanks a bunch for your help. hopefully I will get some better pics from this camera now!

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DMong Sep 19, 2009 11:46 AM

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varanid Sep 20, 2009 06:25 PM

Color acuity is my biggest problem taking pictures, espically with my lavender retic. I just can't capture the pastel tones for crap. For various reasons, outside photography is dicey here, and so I'm stuck trying to get it to work inside with artificial lighting.

joecop Sep 18, 2009 08:00 PM

Rainer, for Gods sake will you feed that thing. Looks skinny as hell. Hahahahahaha. Nice snake.

Nokturnel Tom Sep 19, 2009 10:33 AM

These are really good looking snakes as adults. It's what opened my eyes to the crosses in the first place. The Goini ones have great potential but these crazy patterned ones are amazing.
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varanid Sep 18, 2009 06:45 PM

that top one...wow

Nokturnel Tom Sep 19, 2009 10:34 AM

I agree haha! Thanks
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thomas davis Sep 18, 2009 07:02 PM

very very nice oh jesss berry berry nice congrats amigo
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JTColubrids Sep 18, 2009 11:01 PM

THOSE ARE FREAKIN AWESOMEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

Nokturnel Tom Sep 19, 2009 10:36 AM

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Nokturnel Tom Sep 19, 2009 10:35 AM

Thanks bro, I think these are awesome too
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