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Now can they reproduce more blue eye if breed to a normal ?

It depends....

If your BEL is from a Lesser to mojave then it´s gonna work

If it´s a lesser to lesser then you only get lessers...
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Mattias

Lunar-Ball Reptiles

If I am reading the original question correctly, a BEL x Normal will not produce more BEL, regardless of the genetic makeup of the BEL.
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Snakes:
1.1 gray banded kingsnake
1.1 california kingsnake
1.1 kenyan sand boa
1.1 western hognose snake
0.1 albino checkered garter
1.0 florida blue garter
1.1 het anery red sided garter
1.1 reverse oketee corn snake
1.1 blood red corn snake
0.1 amel striped corn
1.0 amel 66% het striped corn
1.1 het albino ball python
1.1 het ghost ball python
0.1 spider ball python
1.0 pastel ball python
1.1 mojave ball python
1.0 butter ball python
0.1 ringer ball python
1.0 African dinker ball python
0.3 normal ball python
1.0 piebald ball python
0.1 het piebald ball python
0.1 Genetic Stripe Ball Python
1.0 Het Genetic Stripe Ball Python
0.1 Mystic Ball Python

Turtles
1-eastern box turtle
2-spotted turtle
2-eastern/midland painted turtle intergrade
1.0-common musk turtle
1-Pink bellied sideneck
6-Northern red belly

Invertebrates
0.1 southern black widow
1-Tanzanian Giant Tailless whipscorpion

Amphibians
0.1 Ornate Horned Frog

Birds:
1.1 red avadavit
2-blue breasted cordon blue
1.1-black cheeked waxbill
0.1-star finch
1.0-Java rice sparrow
2.0-owl finch
1.0-hybrid munia
0.1-White bellied caique

Fish
2-corydoras cats
1-African upside down cat

normal stuff
0.1 black lab

Makes sense if they are different allelic forms of the same mutation.

Warren
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Dr Warren Booth / Director USARK
North Carolina State University
Department of Entomology

Why wouldn't a BEL from a MojXLesser breeding produce more BELs? The parent could potentially pass on both genes, correct?

Unless...are they considered allelic because they form a BEL in the first place? So each gamete would only have one copy, Moj OR Lesser...
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Lincoln, NE
0.1 Pastel, 1.0 Pastel het Pied, 0.1 Pied, 0.1 Cinn, 1.0 Black Pewter, 1.1 Normals, 1.0 Thayeri, 0.1 Thayeri X Alterna, 0.1 crazy cat, 1.0 husband

No, I do believe I stand corrected by both you and Mr. Booth. I hadn't taken that allele thing into account. Good call, and my apologies.
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Snakes:
1.1 gray banded kingsnake
1.1 california kingsnake
1.1 kenyan sand boa
1.1 western hognose snake
0.1 albino checkered garter
1.0 florida blue garter
1.1 het anery red sided garter
1.1 reverse oketee corn snake
1.1 blood red corn snake
0.1 amel striped corn
1.0 amel 66% het striped corn
1.1 het albino ball python
1.1 het ghost ball python
0.1 spider ball python
1.0 pastel ball python
1.1 mojave ball python
1.0 butter ball python
0.1 ringer ball python
1.0 African dinker ball python
0.3 normal ball python
1.0 piebald ball python
0.1 het piebald ball python
0.1 Genetic Stripe Ball Python
1.0 Het Genetic Stripe Ball Python
0.1 Mystic Ball Python

Turtles
1-eastern box turtle
2-spotted turtle
2-eastern/midland painted turtle intergrade
1.0-common musk turtle
1-Pink bellied sideneck
6-Northern red belly

Invertebrates
0.1 southern black widow
1-Tanzanian Giant Tailless whipscorpion

Amphibians
0.1 Ornate Horned Frog

Birds:
1.1 red avadavit
2-blue breasted cordon blue
1.1-black cheeked waxbill
0.1-star finch
1.0-Java rice sparrow
2.0-owl finch
1.0-hybrid munia
0.1-White bellied caique

Fish
2-corydoras cats
1-African upside down cat

normal stuff
0.1 black lab

alleles are streets..................

now every morph is on a seperate street...

but you have a family of morphs that all look a little bit different but are all related and live on the same street.........

only one morph is allowed to leave the street........

mojave and lesser are on the same street, so only one can leave.....

but.......

spiders are on their own street, just like pastels......

so both a spider and pastel can leave their street, thus producing a bumblebee.

i think that's the most easiest i can break it down.....

hope it makes sense.

Pitoon

Pitoon,
I really liked how you've expained it here. Kudos to you.
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Cheers,
Jessica Gibbs
Ball Pythons; Corn Snakes; Green Tree Python; Jungle Carpet Python; Bci; Bcl; Bco
3.0 Crazy Dogs and 2.0 cats
Some Tropical Fish
...........and growing!

I don't know why, but I read your post with the Seasame Street theme song running through my head.

Or was it the Mr. Rogers one...?

Dave

naw man........ it's the "Goodtimes" theme song

Pitoon

They can't.

The BEL are the super form of Mojave/Lesser/butter.

So BEL to normal, will produce all what was used to create that BEL. A LessserXLesser BEL would produce all lessers. And a MojaveXLesser BEL to normal should have 50% mojave and 50% lesser in the clutch.
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love this world, don't hate it.

watever is right... they CAN'T make more BEL's when bred to normal, NONE OF THEM CAN they are on the same Allele so even if they have 2 different BEL genes in them (say Lesser and Mojave just to name one BEL combo) it still breeds out like Supers do.. Even my Potions bred out to normals will make Mojaves and Mystics and zero normals and ZERO Potions bred to normals too.The trick is to breed them a another BEL member then you make your BEL's that way.

Anthony McCain

I agree. BEL to normal does not equal more BELs. The hatchlings will be whatever originally made the BEL. No normals; all mojaves, all butters, all lessers, all russos or combinations if the BEL is a combo.
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Alice Cobb
Florida Reptile Room

A Super Mojave bred to a normal will produce all Mojaves. No Lucies.