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"Spotty" Blizzards, L@@k RO3IN

KelliH Sep 17, 2003 02:19 AM

Here's my 95 gram male blizzard pictured with his mom. The female weighs 82 grams but she looks so small compared to the monster male LOL.
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Leo Lover Sep 17, 2003 02:27 AM

Hey Kelli check this one out!

Yes this is a REAL spotted PATTERNLESS! I got her from Cecelia (Happy Herps) a little over a year ago. Her parents are a patternless and a het for patternless. All her brothers and sisters were either hets or patternless, and she just hatched out like this.

Although I think she could be a dwarf or something. She is a full grown adutlt, but very very small. She never gains anymore weight than 40-42 grams and thats it! Put her next to a normal size leopard gecko and she's puny!

She a complete sweetie! She is sooo spoiled to. :P Her name is Maleah and I wouldn't trade her for the world! My littlest girl.

Shayna
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KelliH Sep 17, 2003 02:58 AM

I would love to see pics of her as a hatchling, do you have any? She is one cool gecko.
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Leo Lover Sep 17, 2003 05:18 AM

I think I do have a pic of her as a hatchling. Its on one of my burned CD's around here somewhere. :P I'll have to hunt it up! he he he

Actually she looked exactly the way she does now, but just smaller, but I can find that pic.

I'm just so excited about the gecko I am getting from you! I CANNOT WAIT to see him!!!!

Shayna
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KelliH Sep 17, 2003 10:03 AM

Yes, if you could find the pic I would love seeing it. Normally hatchling patternless look completely different from the adults, that's why I was asking. Did she have the typical markings that most patternless babies do?
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Leo Lover Sep 17, 2003 12:17 PM

Kelli-

This is the youngest pic I have of her, straight from Cecelia. In this pic is is like 2-3 months old I believe, if I can remember correctly. I dont have anything from when she was a hatchling, but I hope this will do.

Shayna
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StarGecko Sep 17, 2003 01:08 PM

See the tail? It has bands on it. Patternless geckos do not have bands on the tail, even faint ones. The mottled appearance looks like a faded out abberant. She is definately different looking, and you certainly may have something unusual there, but I don't think it is a spotted patternless, rather a het for patternless. But maybe if you breeed her to a petterless you might get something out of the ordinary.
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Blazin Sep 17, 2003 01:36 PM

That is a patternless. Definetely something else going on but clearly a patternless. Not only that but what I notice about the hatchling pic is the normal blotches that occur on a patty are all washed out yet you have that spotting. Very interesting gecko. Definetely need to put her with a nice male and make some pokedotted pattys or something! AWESOME PATTERNLESS!

StarGecko Sep 17, 2003 02:48 PM

I've never seen a patternless with banded tail.
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Blazin Sep 17, 2003 09:03 PM

I haven't either. But those other markings are clearly patternless markings. More than just the patty gene going on with that leopard.

StarGecko Sep 18, 2003 01:53 AM

They do look like patternless markings, but could they possibly be abberrant hypo markings that have faded? That was my take on it. See that lavender patch, like a hypo might get when losing it's darker patches? Or maybe it is something entirely new, or some gene that combines with patternless in an unusual way. It was mentioned to be a dwarf, hopefully it can be bred safely, will be interesting to see what happens.
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KelliH Sep 18, 2003 12:52 AM

I've hatched out hundreds, dare I say thousands of leos, including many, many hypos, patternless, etc. That gecko is a patternless, just a weird looking, funky spotted patternless. Shayna, remember if you ever want to sell her or maybe a breeding loan... let me know!!
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StarGecko Sep 18, 2003 01:49 AM

I don't even work with patternless, but I've seenn quite a few pics, and while I agree the markings look like a patternless, but I can't explain the banded tail. Could they possibly be just odd hypo markings that faded? The tail has bands. Have you ever seen a patternless with a banded tail? Is this some brand new mutation? Perhaps related to patternless, but not? Will be interesting to see where this goes if bred.
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Justyn Sep 18, 2003 03:43 AM

I guess I can also ask you a similar question, have you seen a patternless with spots? It appears that both the patternless and normal genes are being expressed at the same time. It's what you would call a "Paradox Patternless". Certainly a very rare and interesting gecko that I would not doubt was genetic.
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Justyn

>>I don't even work with patternless, but I've seenn quite a few pics, and while I agree the markings look like a patternless, but I can't explain the banded tail. Could they possibly be just odd hypo markings that faded? The tail has bands. Have you ever seen a patternless with a banded tail? Is this some brand new mutation? Perhaps related to patternless, but not? Will be interesting to see where this goes if bred.
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>>Sarah Stettler aka Starling
>>Sarah@stargecko.com
>>StarGecko.Com COMING SOON! Star Quality Leopard Geckos
>>Specializing in Hypotangerine Tremper Albinos
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StarGecko Sep 18, 2003 01:05 PM

Wonder why it hasn't been done before...very interesting! Too bad it can't be bred.
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z10silver Sep 17, 2003 02:55 PM

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KelliH Sep 17, 2003 01:48 PM

What an awesome leo! Shayna if you ever decide to part with her please let me know! That is one of the most unique geckos I have seen in awhile. You are so lucky to have her!
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roi3in Sep 17, 2003 12:37 PM

there will always be a place in my heart for your mean little nervouse a$$....

he looks great kelli!!!1
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