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I could not believe my eyes when I cut these eggs this morning. At least four Hypo Es that look as nice as mom. The other two look a little to orange to be just hets. If I end up with six out of six all being Hypo E from a Hypo E to het pairing, I think I might have to run out & buy a lotto ticket.
The male that's out pipped last night & was cruisin around this morning. Not sure if he's Hypo E or just a het, but he does look oranger than a normal in person. Any opinions will be greatly appreciated on him.
Enjoy the pics,
Chris

Moms the Hypo E, Dads the het.
Chris

Congratulations!,....those are awesome!

Considering a homo x het pairing will give you a theoretical 50% hypo-E, and 50% normal/het for hypo-E, you already beat the odds there anyway. I'm sure the much redder one is a het.

Now if they were the OTHER line of hypo-E animals that GRADUALLY lose their orange/red, then you might have something there. But going by what the neonates in the egg look like, the other red one MUST be a normal het. See what I mean?

again, those are KILLER!

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

The redder one probably only looks much lighter than normal because this is very typical of all hatchlings before they shed for the first time, somewhere around 10 days.

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

That's kind of what I was thinking. I just looked at him this evening & he's already looking a little darker. Now I'm waiting for the rest of them to come out of there shells. I wish they would hurry up. LOL.
Thanks again Doug,
Chris

Chris,.....

I can just picture the beads of sweat trickling off your forehead onto the keyboard in the excited anticipation of those finally immerging from their eggs!..LOL!

Those are really special!

~Doug

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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Gross man...hope you don't look like that everytime you get behind a computer screen! LOL....

And yes, in response to your post on another forum..."Nate Dawg" has been extremely busy with family, work, baby girl, herping, hoards of sinaloan eggs and getting ready for baby boy to arrive in March. Busy...but good. I'll get around to my annual monster posts when more things hatch.

Hope you are well buddy.
Nate

LOL!,....that's too funny that you caught a glimpse of those other post's that Shannon and I made!

Congratulations on having another addition to your family soon, buddy!

Glad to hear things are going well there, although busy like you said.

I've had some pretty nice things hatch this year, and am waiting on the last clutch of ghost's to hatch within about another week or so. Good to hear all your success on things too man. We all look forward to more of your posts and pics too.

best regards, "Nate Dawg" LOL! ~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Agree. As a side note I will add that many of my "het" for hypo coastals are more bright than non gene carriers. So much so that I've so far selected hets from 67% possible hets with a 100% success rate. It doesn't always work the other way around though. Many lack luster possible hets have gone on to be proven gene carriers.
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“Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind.” Emmerson

That's pretty darn interesting Tony. It would be cool to see the data on how many specimen's proved to be hets, and how many did not over a long period of time going by just their red coloration alone. I am quite sure you are already in the process of compiling these findings for later comparison as well.

Very strange indeed!

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

you got some srious hypo-e goin' on there Chris. I know this trait can vary, but those are intense. Good on ya mate, congrats.....
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Jerry Kruse

And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."

Thanks Jerry. I'm quite thrilled the little guys turned out as nice as mom.
Thanks again,
Chris

I am happy to see that you produced your first hypoerythristic sinaloans. You ended up with good odds considering it was a hypo-e to a het breeding. I know it has been exciting for you.

As we have discussed off forum in the past, the light colored hatchlings you have pictured still in their eggs are very typical of baby hypoerythristics. Although much lighter than their het siblings, after many months and several meals will you then begin to see a nice array of developing colors take place. Most take on the orange "pumpkin" look while others will lighten up even more, looking more pink than orange.
As I have said a few times before, adults take on brilliant hues of orangish-reds and light pinks while older animals, many times, may lose most of their color entirely, giving them a "white-colored" washed out appearance.

Even though the other reddish offspring seem lighter (which is typical for both hets and double hets), they are easliy distinguished from the true hypoerythristics you have produced.

Congrats again Chris, I hope they do well for you. I have a several clutches as well that should begin hatching any day now...(hypoerythristics, double het hypo-e/albino, double het hypo-e/splotched and double het hypo-e/vanishing pattern, to name a few). Keep us posted on their progress and take care.
Nathan Wells

>>... adults take on brilliant hues of orangish-reds and light pinks while older animals, many times, may lose most of their color entirely, giving them a "white-colored" washed out appearance.

Nathan, any chance we could see pics of some of those varied and unusual animals? I'd love to see them.

Thanks Nathan & also thanks for the info as well. Can we expect a Hypo E striped spotched sinaloan this year?
Chris