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Ivory Carpets??

saagbay Oct 03, 2009 08:36 PM

I hear that this was a new morph, makes the snake look almost all black and white... if true that sounds fantastic

does any one know about them is anyone breeding them any pictures???
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-Stephen-

0.1 soon to be wifey (Babe)
1.0 rotwiler/chow (Boomer)
1.0 norm corn (Jake)
1.0 col redtail boa (Switch, formally known as Dixie)
0.1 ball python (Bella)
1.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boa (Torpaz & Saphira)

Replies (8)

BrucenBruce Oct 04, 2009 11:24 AM

I've seen photos of them - jungle carpets with reduced or no yellow - they're pretty cool looking. My understanding is that they're not a "morph", but rather selectively bred for lighter color.

Nick Mutton talked a bit about them on Reptile Radio last night.

~Bruce

Jaykis Oct 06, 2009 10:07 AM

I have a 75% Diamond, 25% coastal that's black and white.

captnemo Oct 06, 2009 10:29 PM

I produced 2 clutches this year using a male Ivory that was said to have been produced by Nick. The first one was that male paired up with an ornate coastal jag. The second one was that same male paired up with a trophy female jungle.

Here's some pics for you to check out....I'll see if I can upload more into the photo gallery tomorrow.

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"He who would stifle debate rather than engage in it, does so at the expense of his integrity and credibility"

Mike Curtin

captnemo Oct 07, 2009 08:07 AM

Here's some other pics for you to check out.

Also, from the work nick Mutton has done, and what I've seen with my first breedings, this looks to be more of an inheritable trait than a genetic mutation. This means that the more you breed ivories with ivories, the lighter they'll become. So far, the majority of the offspring from the Ivory x High Yellow pairing seem to have a muted, faded yellow to them, while a few appear to be lighter, and a few more yellow. It appears that selective breeding will bring about the whitest carpets we'll see, andthat's something I'll be working on for the next few years.

The photos posted are of the jungle pairing.

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"He who would stifle debate rather than engage in it, does so at the expense of his integrity and credibility"

Mike Curtin

captnemo Oct 07, 2009 08:13 AM

And here's a few of the Jungle Jag pairing. First the adults, thn a normal sibling, and last is a jag.

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"He who would stifle debate rather than engage in it, does so at the expense of his integrity and credibility"

Mike Curtin

saagbay Oct 07, 2009 06:33 PM

wow very nice!! i really like the idea of a pure black and white carpet, and from the sounds of it, we are just about there now.

i have my first breeding project now they are rainbow boas should be ready by next year, so in a few years when that is up and going maybe after i get a couple breeding pairs my next move will be into carpets... i just love jungle jags and now these ivorys have me really excited

but thanks for the pictures
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-Stephen-

0.1 soon to be wifey (Babe)
1.0 rotwiler/chow (Boomer)
1.0 norm corn (Jake)
1.0 col redtail boa (Switch, formally known as Dixie)
0.1 ball python (Bella)
1.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boa (Torpaz & Saphira)

saagbay Oct 07, 2009 06:42 PM

yeah so "ivory" in carpets is like "high orange" in BRBs you breed the brightest orange parents to get the brightest orange babies...

what about the "jag" morph that must be either a DOM or CO-DOM gene right? and that also can breed into either coastal or jungle
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-Stephen-

0.1 soon to be wifey (Babe)
1.0 rotwiler/chow (Boomer)
1.0 norm corn (Jake)
1.0 col redtail boa (Switch, formally known as Dixie)
0.1 ball python (Bella)
1.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boa (Torpaz & Saphira)

captnemo Oct 08, 2009 12:29 PM

I'm not too sure about how that compares to the BRB's, but it sounds about right.

As to the jag gene, it is considered co-dom insofar that a statistical 50% of the offspring from a Jag x Normal pairing will be jags, while the other half will be normal. The Jag mutation is a Coastal Carpet morph, so while we can plug it into jungles, IJ's, diamonds, bredl's, and others, it essentially creates integrades, which some frown upon. I, myself, try to pair animals up that I think have the best chance at producing something new, and/or trophy offspring....especially when creating jag crosses.
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"He who would stifle debate rather than engage in it, does so at the expense of his integrity and credibility"

Mike Curtin

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