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I got a male and a female tremper albino, I know if I breed them I will get 100% Tremper Albino babies and I think I will incubate them at 90 degrees so they will be as bright as possible!

My question is, is say I get a paternless female and breed her with one of the male tremper albinos, what would I call the babies? What would the babies look like?

I dont really understand how the blood lines work, like which babies I will be able to breed with which babies and which ones I wont be able to because they are brother and sisters.

Thanks,
Jesse

you would get double hets for patternless albinos. Then if you breed the double hets to eachother you are supposed to have 1:16 chance of getting a patternless albino(tremper strain). But as far as i know the tremper albino strain's genes and the patternless genes are less compatible than the rainwater albino genes and the patternless genes. So basically since the genes are less compatible the chance of getting a patternless albino is less for trempers than it would be with rainwaters. I dont think that the patternless albinos will hold their value and in about 2 years i think they will be down to about 100 - 200 dollars(depending on quality). If i were you i would invest in a line bred trait(tangerine,carrottail) and try to improve the colors. They seem to be holding their value.

Well I think I made a mistake anyways. My trempers are still very young, so I wont be breeding for a while, but I wasnt too smart when I picked them out. I was looking for more of that planish color (the stuff that turns brownsih i think) when I should have been looking for the ones that had most yellow in them

Anyways lets say I get a hypo tangernine, should I get a male or female one?

And what do you mean by double het? This is the stuff I really dont know much about yet, but I got a little while to learn before I will be doing any breeding.

Thanks,
Jesse

You will get all males, with the potential for "hot females"? Hot females are sterile, and generally have a foul disposition. Also, be sure that if you do incubate all males, you have the room to house them all seperatly after the first couple of months.
Sam

for the first 14 days will lock in females and then raise it up to 90 for the remaining time will give you the brigest possible females.

Jesse

Actually, no I had never heard that. I was simply trying to help, based on my experiences, which include over 100 babies hatched, with out ever losing one. I would be interested in a link to the info for further reading.
Sam

Either there or in another book by Ray Hunziker (sp) I think
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Either there or in another book by Ray Hunziker (sp) I think
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Mr. Ron Tremper. He posted a page that said that to get the brightest and best looking albinos possible is to incubate at a constant 90F. And as Dragfameson said, you can incubate at 80F to lock the female sex, then raise to a constant 90F. The fatal temperature for a leopard gecko egg is 95F.

Also, there has been no prove of "hot females" being streile and agressive. This is explained in The Leopard Gecko Manual. It states that there was a study in I think 1988 and the findings on "hot females" was that they were sterile and agressive. Then there was another study by Brian E. Viets in I think 1993. There were no findings of these females to be sterile or agressive, they just grew slower then the other females. So the 1988 study didn't give the females enough time for them to mature, so they pronounced them sterile.

I know you were trying to help

Ever heard of Ron Tremper? At the very top of his home page is says "TEMPERATURE EFFECTS COLOR" it is a link... thats what your looking for

Jesse

It looks like he posted that in December. Very interesting info. I think I will give that a try with some of my Tremper Jungle Albinos this year. I also went and re-read the Viets study(pgs 73-78, of the LG manual), not sure why I missed that the first 50 times through
Sam

I've must of read the LGM dozens of time - including that article - yet when Ron Tremper puts it in his FAQ section, I'm saying to myself "So that's how he does it!"

I blame it on age!! LOL.

I'm going to be doing a little experimentation with temp myself! Sounds interesting.
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