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Here is a photo of what I am calling the Titan Ball Python (Special-Cinnie-Pastel)! He was produced from breeding a Pastel Crystal to a Cinnamon! Stunning little boy! Seemed exteme enough to warrant a name, and I liked the progression of the same word... I guess youll have to see the Titanium (Epic-Special-Cinnie-Pastel) to know where I am coming from! Be interesting to hear opinions on the naming.
The Titan...

The Titan with The Tit (Special-Cinnie) Two Brothers Fresh Out Of The Egg...

kudo`s bro!! he looks great! and i think the name is pretty sweet! everybody else gets to name the first ball of a certain morph, i dont see why you cant. i cant wait to see if i ever get to name a ball morph!

later boadave

I may not have a popular opinion,but the naming of these triple and quad morphs is getting confusing. I suggest calling it by its genetics such as special pastel pewter. I believe this would create more consistency among hobbyists and breeders. However, since you are the first to produce this wonderful animal, the choice is ultimately up to you. JMO

Agreed.
A standard of naming would make things easier...but since when have things been easy? Haha.
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"What is man without the beasts?
If all the beasts were gone,
men would die from great loneliness of spirit.
For what happens to the beasts,
soon happens to men.
All things are connected."

-Chief Seattle (Duwamish Tribe)

I do agree that the naming gets out of control... Everytime someone creates a new combo they feel the need to name it? But... In my defense, I have produced a few firsts, and outside of the Crystal, have just called them what they were. I named this snake only because the Titanium (Epic-Special-Cinnie-Pastel) is extreme enough to warrant a name (havent posted his picture yet). The rest are just plays on the same name which kinda works. We also have names like Bumblebees, Pewters, etc... that are combo names as opposed to listing different morphs, which have become common and known to anyone with enough interest to pursue more information.
Finally, the problem comes when you have quite a few traits in one snake! I dont know how many times I had to explain the "Epic" highlighter gene at the Anaheim show, and I probably said Epic Pastel Mojave Yellow Belly 1000 times and it got old quick! That is when I understood why some extreme combos, or at least extreme triple combos should get names.

Thanks!

Awesome!...Cinnies are the ultimate co-dom.

GAH!

I haven't even made my own pewter yet and people are making them cooler. Dangit!
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"What is man without the beasts?
If all the beasts were gone,
men would die from great loneliness of spirit.
For what happens to the beasts,
soon happens to men.
All things are connected."

-Chief Seattle (Duwamish Tribe)

Nice pics, GREAT animals Tom!!! CONGRATS man!

Anthony McCain

Thanks Guys!

First off, congratulations on the beautiful PEWTER. I am going to challenge the naming of a snake based on appearance. It looks great BUT isn't it "just" a great pewter?

Does the quality of this pewter I produced, allow me to name it with a seperate name or "line" name?

In '07, I produced Spider-Mojave babies. The much cooler name is Mojave-Bee. However I wasn't even close to being the first to produce them, so Spider-Mojave it was.

Food for thought!

I don't believe "Special" is an adjective here. It's a line of Pastel, correct?

First off, congratulations on the beautiful PEWTER. I am going to challenge the naming of a snake based on appearance. It looks great BUT isn't it "just" a great pewter?
Does the quality of this pewter I produced, allow me to name it with a seperate name or "line" name?
In '07, I produced Spider-Mojave babies. The much cooler name is Mojave-Bee. However I wasn't even close to being the first to produce them, so Spider-Mojave it was.
Food for thought!

It's not just a great Pewter. It's a Pewter which also carries an additional mutant gene that Tom refers to as a "Special".

Here's a link to a picture of a Crystal:

Crystal Pic
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Louis Kirkland
Cornerstone Reptiles

That's what I got when I read it. It's a cinnamon/pastel/special (that makes crystals).

Tom should come up with a name for the "special".
Could call it the quartz ball. Eh?
Mix a quartz and a mojo and get a crystal?
See where I'm going there?

Haha.

Tom's call. His discovery. I just like brainstorming.
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"What is man without the beasts?
If all the beasts were gone,
men would die from great loneliness of spirit.
For what happens to the beasts,
soon happens to men.
All things are connected."

-Chief Seattle (Duwamish Tribe)

Its funny that you mention the Quartz ball, because for some reason I though of Quartzite before, but blew it off... Maybe a vote is in order from the Crystal producers!

SnakeWrangler,
If that Pewter maintained that outrageous color, then I recommend that you try and figure out why.... I would look at the siblings, look at the parents, etc... That thing is insane and more than likely something else is going on... If its a reproducable gene then you would get to name it!
As I said in a response before, I have produced a few firsts that I did not name. I named the Crystal, the Special, and that is it. When I saw the Epic-Pastel-Cinnamon-Special (will post a pic tommorrow), I thought it deserved its own name and just played off of that. As people responded, Special is a co-dominant trait and means a bit more than just being nice!

I also should add that in 2008 I produced the first Super Pastel Spider Mojave.... I just called it a KillerBee Mojave.