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Inspired to take some pics today I took some of the animals outside to take advantage of the overcast day.
The snakes had been at 80 degrees so I got a lot of real jumpy snakes

So I decided to let them cool for about 60 mins ont the porch and try again

Be carefull not to do this near a place the snakes may jump in that you won't be able to grab it.Grass is a bad idea and so is a wood porch etc .This upsidedown garbage can works well cause it spins. That helps to get the snake in a good position for a pic.Best to get the snake facing left or right not up or down.The pics look better that way.

Phil thanks for these they are both eating and still biting the heck out of my hands.Pictured is the female as the male is too jumpy to allow out of his tupperware outside.

Paul pictured are 2 of the three siblings you gave me and they are doing great. This first one is on pinks.

This one takes wormsnake.

This male gentilis may be my brightest male but I have had to smack him with ft pinks for the first few years to get him to take them and then not move till he swallowed it. He is about 3 years old and has finally started to take live and ft pinks on his own.He has retained his red well for a gentilis. The camera doesn't pick up the yellowish tinge on the back.The sides and vent are very white

This guy only eats worm snake sections but loves them.
Phil this is a brother of the one you have.

Pics taken with a Canon PowerShot S5IS 8.0 megapixels .
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Doug L

Doug nice photo session, and very cool animals too.

Is this a celaenops? 16 RBR, very nice, the head shape is goofy to me. Not that wide back end in the head shape that I'm used to seeing in celaenops, and the white on the snout is wide too.

Doug nice photo session, and very cool animals too.

Is this a celaenops? 16 RBR, very nice, the head shape is goofy to me. Not that wide back end in the head shape that I'm used to seeing in celaenops, and the white on the snout is wide too.

See what I mean by wide head, and black snout. Hwy 118 TX.

This girl has the white lip, much like yours. Hwy 118 TX.

Any who cool animals.

-Dell

She is from Phil so ill let him answer

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Doug L

Doug,
I didn't make myself clear, sorry bout that. I assumed the photo you posted is a celaenops but an interesting looking celaenops because of the RBR count, (on the low side for celaenops) and the head and snout. (my own observation)
The RBR count for celaenops can be all over the map, low 17, to high 22. Of course the counts can be lower or higher at times.
The head shape and lack of white snout is my own observation of how most celaenop heads look. The size of the RBR is another thing I look for in celaenops.

Here is one of my best celaenops breeders w/ more white/amber on his nose then what I would expect in a classic celaenops, but w/ a RBR count that fits into the classic number for celaenops, not to metion the wide red bands.

I believe this would be a classic looking celaenops, produced by Cole, bred to the male above. The white lip, on a wedge shaped head with a RBR count of 18.

Couple more classic celaenops.

I would call this an intergrade celaenopsXgentilis. High band count w/ the lack of a wedge shaped head, and the locality it's from is near gentilis land, so I'm told. Not my snake.

This animal has a celaenpos look to it, I think, with it's wedged shaped head and white lip which does push into it's head cap a little, but the band count is way to high, and it's locality is out of celaenops range. Hence it is a taylori. Interesting how much they can look a like.

Here is what a mean celaenops will do.

This is one of the best celaenops I have ever seen.
I believe this was found and photo taken by Troy Hibbits, and posted by Nathan Wells in his incredible post last year. Yes, I stole the photo and saved it to look at when my wife is out of town. -Dell

Hey Dell,
The pair that Doug has came from my Bernalillo Co., Nm.
pair. This is the same pair that produced the somewhat spotted male that I posted earlier.

And here's the proud parents.

-Phil
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Dell, Phil will have to give the locale to you but I am pretty sure those are from a very hard to get locale as well.

Very nice photo session Doug. You've got a bunch of great nates there. Great idea on the garbage can lid...I might have to steal that idea from you!

Dave
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Awesome snakes Doug!!! Those all have really bright colors for sure.

The garbage can lid idea is brilliant! Hats off to your efforts with those little rascals - nice healthy looking milks.
Drop a line, we gotta get caught up again....Jeff
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Whoa, I'm seeing red! Nice pics Doug.

Glad to hear that 2 of the sibs are feeding.

Those are some very nice milks, Doug! I'll have to use the trash lid trick. Thanks for sharing

Dan Eby

Cool racer pic Dan.How far away were you?

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Doug L

nice photos, very good looking group you have there