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sbshortie Sep 17, 2003 03:41 PM

Per Eve's many requests...

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eve Sep 17, 2003 04:18 PM

Dang Becca, Where have ya bee hiding those 2 Beauties? WOW ! They are really a Gorgeous pair, I mean it , you have done a Fantastic Job with them, My Congrats to you ! WOW again, just for the heck of it ! Eve

ETChipotle Sep 17, 2003 04:34 PM

THey really do, and they're beautiful!

But I don't feel like I know you well enough for our children to be siblings....
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ETChipotle

sbshortie Sep 17, 2003 05:15 PM

LOL well I'm 20. I live in Southern California. I go to college full time and work 2 part time jobs. hehe What else?

Johne Sep 17, 2003 04:39 PM

I have a couple girls that have some armpit bulges too...I wonder what causes that? They look great! Can't beat that for the price!

John

sbshortie Sep 17, 2003 05:17 PM

what's funny is that she is soooooo not fat!

Johne Sep 17, 2003 06:04 PM

I was asking about that a while back if anyone has seen that before. Most speculations were mite related, but I am postive none of my lizards have mites. Must be a hormonal thing.

John

eve Sep 17, 2003 06:33 PM

But why? And what causes it, ya know, we have all hashed that out too. But no exact answer. Eve

DC Sep 17, 2003 06:57 PM

...because that's the area it looks like is...uhh...'affected'. I thought it might have been some irritant or foreign substance (like filter sand LOL) which had caused some type of reaction or swelling in the antehumeral mite pocket(s). But it looks like lots of females (in particular) seem to store some fat reserves there... I think we decided the technical term for that was "outies" LOL.

DC
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I've got the blues...LOL...them screamin' yellow-head blues...

eve Sep 17, 2003 07:37 PM

I think you are talking about the poches under the armpits, that Johns talking about I'm talking about that Goiter sac LOL

Brockn Sep 18, 2003 12:11 AM

to Johne's question about "fatty armpits", and in particular speculation (from previous posts?) that the cause could be mite related. I tend to agree with DC that the presence of the bulges in the immediate area of the antehumeral fold could perhaps be more than just coincidence. Just to inform folks, the antehumeral pocket itself is a small area of reduced scales located just above/behind the forelimbs which mites and mite larvae frequently inhabit in wild Crotaphytus. That being said, I am in no way suggesting - or believe - that mites are the cause of the bulges in the examples provided recently on this forum. In fact, I cannot even offer a likely specific cause in these cases. From my limited observations this does seem to be a "condition" which appears most frequently in the C. collaris species, at least in captivity...

Brock

lissag25 Sep 17, 2003 08:17 PM

i don't know about collareds but i do know that in leos and in bearded dragons.. it is another place to store fat.. and it is commonly used in female leos to tell when they are of breeding age..but it could be entirely different in collareds..

Alissa

sbshortie Sep 17, 2003 11:37 PM

she's only 6 months old so i hope she isnt old enough to breed!

lissag25 Sep 18, 2003 12:18 AM

that theory about the leo's with fatty armpits is flawed..at least i think so..because i have seen young leopard geckos with fatty armpits... but not be overally fat. all my beardies have them but they are on the plump side (hope they don't read that :P ) and my adult female leos have them as well but my juvenile female leos do not have them yet...to sum it up.. i don't think it has anything to do with mites or that it is unhealthy.. but again i don't know about collareds since i still don't have one..i think they are kind of cute..fatty underarms..

alissa

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