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So, all 15 of my reptiles have mites.. must of came from a wild caught BRB i bought a while back. I was told to use nix, and I followed the directions I found online.. diluted it.. I sprayed the snake like the site said.. anyway, i didnt wash it off.. now the next day he is moving all over the place back and forth, biting himself.. heres a video i took of him this morning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pOywUU0cro
Anyone know what I should do??

Ya he has some nerve damage from the nix. I beleive there are two different types of Nix with different chamicals. Did you buy brand name Nix or dept store brand?

I use Seargents Tick & Flea Dog shampoo. If I leave it on it does not harm the snake.

But even with Seargents there are different types with the wrong chemicals. So if you get the wrong one it to can hurt or kill your snake.

This is also like pople buying perlite with Miracle grow additive for their snake eggs.

I would wash or SOAK the snake and leave it alone. Don't stress him like in the video.
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"They that can give up essential liberty, to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty or safety." -Benjamin Franklin

After looking at that video again it looks like your snake is hallucinating like it is on an acid trip or something.

Doug or Crimsonking can give better advice on what to do in this situation.
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"They that can give up essential liberty, to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty or safety." -Benjamin Franklin

hopefully they see my msg and reply!!

Well, like Rainer said, probably the only thing that can be done at this point is an absolute thorough rinsing, and maybe a little soaking too. But make DARN sure it gets rinsed well first, the last thing you want is to have it soak in the poison soup that came from the residue of the poison chemicals.

Hope the little guy pulls through, and it isn't already too late!.....man!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

Whatever you do, do NOT soak it unattended!!,..it could easily drown from all the weird neurological spasming!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

thanks for the reply..
I have left him alone since the video. I feel so bad for him. Im assuming he will eventually die, as neurological damage cant be reversed.
It was nix, not a knock off brand.. it was a cream

what I've done before for dehydrated snakes--I get a rubbermaid that I've drilled holes in the bottom and sides and top of, and run the shower on a tepid temperature over the rubbermaid. Rinses them off pretty good without leaving them in standing water. Also used it on lizards...would be a good way to get the chemicals off him without leaving him soaking in chemical saturated water.

>> "This is also like pople buying perlite with Miracle grow additive for their snake eggs.

I would wash or SOAK the snake and leave it alone. Don't stress him like in the video"

*** I agree 100%!

Yes, the snake got poisoned for sure,...now all that can be done is to THOROUGHLY rise the snake, put it in a secluded spot undisturbed with mildly warm temps(low 80's) and hope for the best.

Too bad for the snake that happened.

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

Sorry to hear about your sick snake. definately agree with doug!Also next time you get a wild caught or new snake you might try at least a two month quarintine period. i do 3 months personally cuz i learned the hard way once as a kid. hopefully the lil fella pulls through.

You should have called a proper vet right away, or brought it to one. They know what to do. Sometimes it is a simple thing to chemically inert another chemical, or a simple antidote. If nobody here can jump in and help, then it is a waste of time. I remember Tannith Tyre (aka MsTT) use to post here about ten years ago, she was the greatest with the medical stuff. Too bad there’s nobody like that who is a regular. Call a vet and get the snake some help before it rolls.

you remember MsTT too? she used to post on some of the venomous forums before they were all combined.

Im so sorry to read about your beautiful snake and the NIX! It just sucks period. A friend gave me reptile relief, which you spray on the snake and prevent o mite for the cage, and I used the relief on the kingsnake, and it had no problems, and used the prevent in the cage and when used together, they worked very well. Not intending to endorse anything but just relating my experiences. I killed a hatchling pair of speckleds when I used too large of a piece of no pest strip and I was heart broken- so I can relate a bit to what you are going through. Hope things turn around a bit for your snake.
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1.0 Boa- Hogg Island
0.1 Bull- Northern
1.0 Bull- TX Red
0.1 Bull- KS Yellow
1.1 Bulls- Red X Yellow
1.0 Bull- Medicine Hat, Alberta, Canada
1.0 Corn Snake (Okeetee?)
1.1 Fox Snakes- Western
1.1 Kings- Black Easterns (L.g.nigra) Todd Co. KY
1.2 Kings- Coastal CA
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1.1 Pines- Louisiana (pure descendants of Terry Vandeventer stock)
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You're right, I thought about that too. Sometimes very knowledgeable vet medicine personnel know some poison neutralizing tricks.

I know of some internal ones for mammals/humans, but not real sure at ALL about poison being absorbed through the skin of reptiles.

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

Have you thoroughly rinsed the snake yet? How is it doing? Repeat the washing each day for at least 3-5 days.

Don't give up. I've seen snakes pull through before.

Also, next time use Provent-a-Mite. Use as directed on can. Let it dry all the way before placing substrate and snake back in the cage.

Also, some kinds of kingsnakes seem more sensitive to mite-killing products. Thus far, for me, Provent-a-Mite has been a safe and effective product. I have used it with rosyboas, boa constrictors, pythons, montane kings and other kings and milks. I use it sparingly, and it does the job, usually with just a single application, sometimes requiring a few applications with larger snakes. Most of my snakes are rescues, hence the need to deal with mites when I bring an animal home.
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Mark

Take your snake to a vet right away. He is basically suffering from organophosphate toxicity. A shot of atropine should make him better almost instantly. If not he will die. Soon.

Good luck.

In the future you should not use products that are not designed for reptiles. Even if you do (the active ingredient in NIX is the same as proventomite) you should still follow the directions and use extreme caution.

Also, Prevent O Mite clearly states not to spray the snake. To kill the mites that are on the snake use Reptile Relief, and you will be fine, at least from my experience. But as Zack said, get your snake to vet with Zack's recommendations.
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1.0 Boa- Hogg Island
0.1 Bull- Northern
1.0 Bull- TX Red
0.1 Bull- KS Yellow
1.1 Bulls- Red X Yellow
1.0 Bull- Medicine Hat, Alberta, Canada
1.0 Corn Snake (Okeetee?)
1.1 Fox Snakes- Western
1.1 Kings- Black Easterns (L.g.nigra) Todd Co. KY
1.2 Kings- Coastal CA
1.1 Kings- NC Eastern Chains (M from Union Co. & F from Mecklenburg Co.)
1.1 Kings- Gray Banded 'Blair's'
1.1 Kings- Speckled, Harris Co. TX
1.1 Pines- Carolina Northerns (M from NC, F from SC)
1.1 Pines- Louisiana (pure descendants of Terry Vandeventer stock)
1.1 Pythons- Ball
1.1 Ratsnakes- Black, Henderson Co. NC