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A friend of mine produced a nice 4 egg clutch. It was a pied to a pied and yeiled two possable three what looks to be LIKE G-Stripe pieds. The cool one has very little white just the tip of the tail with a stripe that has very few if any breaks in it at all. A clear belly like and the orange on the bottom like a normal Pied. The mother has what looks like a " Genetic Stripe" but I don't know if it was or not? The dad is just a nice looking Pied no striping. The origional G-Stripe was a simple ressessive as well as the Super Stripe (W/Yellowbelly) project RIGHT??? I don't know if he wants me to post pics or not so I'll have to ask first. I saw the Leopard Pied however don't know much about the genetics of it. Does anyone know were I might be able to compair photos. Thanks

wellllll. the super stripe is a combo between a yellow belly and another codom morph. bred together they can produce the SS. genetic stripe is a recessive trait. assuming the dad was pied and the female was a GS, all the offspring would be normal appearing double hets. no pieds, no stripes. pics will be necessary to try and determine what your friend hatched, but i doubt they are pieds (unless the mom was a het) or genetic srtipes.

sorry didnt see that both parents were pieds. likely the offspring are stiped pieds, but not genetic striped pieds. many pieds have striped patterns, which is part of the appeal of pieds.

I still think a visual g-stripe x pied should be called a "pipe".

I asked him and he said okay. So, here they are. The first pic is of the parents, the second is of the mom with her 1st baby, and the third is of the 2nd baby. I haven't taken any pics of the 3rd and 4th baby yet but one of those also looks like the mother. Three out of four offspring looking like the mother doesn't sound random enough to me for it not to not be genetic. Thanks for looking and please leave comments to let him know what you think.

It does certainly LOOK like what I would think a Genetic Stripe Pied would be. The high-white parent could be covering the phenotype. I'd recommend breeding one or the other of the parents to a Genetic Stripe (or Het GS) to see what you get. At the very least all would be double hets and not a bad project at all
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what you have there are some low white pieds, that exhibit heavy striping. real beauties! but i highly doubt that the genetic stripe mutation is present. i truly do hope you prove me wrong though!

>>what you have there are some low white pieds, that exhibit heavy striping. real beauties! but i highly doubt that the genetic stripe mutation is present. i truly do hope you prove me wrong though!

I would think the same.

Best way would be to try to breed her to a G. Stripe male. If you got any G.Stripe in that clutch, she is. Otherwise, you should have double het genetic stripe, and make your way to a real genetic stripe pied
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Why would he do that? That would be like taking a step backward would it not? This could be a differant type of genetic stripe. I think it might be better to breed one of her sons first generation that show the stripe of which all are Pied to. Then he would get more pieds at least some of which might also be stripes. The first generation breed back shouldn't be too geneticly messed up as long as you get your answers, then breed it back out. He bought the female and produced the male from his own stock so neigther are related. Am I right or wrong???

Wrong.... and right...

If you are trying to see if they are genetic stripe you would need to breed the male to a het or an actually g stripe to prove the claim Of Genetic Stripe Pied Ball Python.

If you are saying it is a new stripe mutation you still need to breed it out to see if its dominant, codominant, recessive, or polygenetic. If you breed it to a normal and no stripes appear then it may be recessive trait, but breeding back to the original parent will not give you an answer at all. You still wont know what type of trait you have.

In my opinion those are PIEDS low white with heavy striping like others have stated. I am not a fan of pieds but I have seen enough them and combos to say it just a pied with some stripes.

Could I be wrong that this is a genetic stripe that is only linked to the pied? Possibly but DOES an Axanthic, because it is not compatible with the others, make the others not Axanthics? Jollif, Snake Keeper, and V.P.I., along with the others, do exist today. If what you are saying is true, he should be able to name it correctly.

It's genetic it's striped and it's pied but it's not a genetic striped pied. The striped pied is fairly common the look is typical for the low white striped version. I wouldn't put too much effort into trying to prove it out but if you have a g-stripe or het g-stripe sitting around you could give it a try.
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for whatever reason A lot of low white pieds have dorsal striping. I have an adult female pied that is low white and striped.