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My man eating hybrid.

is that a yawn or a " im gonna F$%$%#% you up!!"??

yeah, he's just yawning, I just think it looks good. if anyone has real pics of a cyclura being vicious, I'd be up for seeing those. Seems like they all calm down in captivity though... not that I'm complaining...

Here's my white's being all vicious.

John,
C'mon over, I have plenty of unhappy cyclura pics. Here is one from 2000 on
Andros Is.

jf

First there is no such thing as a vicious Cyclura only a scared one. Almost always that's the keepers fault once they become an adult. I have over 20 adult Cyclura and some would try to bite you when I got them and now ALL are puppy dogs only wanting food or to be scratched. The only exception is nesting females. The pic of the one gaping looks like it's yawning or perhaps is hot and thermoregulating but it doesn't look aggresive...thanks
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Tom Crutchfield
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maybe its just semantics but they can be vicious. mating season, being territorial and nest protection. Since the definition is deliberately violent and dangerous to people, I say yeah they can. I've seen it and felt it both wild and captive. You mention nest protection yourself in your post on the monitor forum. I agree that it is not their nature, and I think thats what you are getting at, but they have the capacity when pi$$ed off.

jf

Actually in the post above I mention nesting females. While I've heard stories from others that I BELIEVE I've never personally had a male Cyclura during breeding season be aggresive towards people although Green Iguanas are a different story. I have a large tame wild Iguana living here about 6' long that we feed. Yesterday as my albino and het females are giving off pheromones he was displaying on top of the enclosure their in. Patty walked up to feed him and he LAUNCHED HIMSELF at her face with open mouth in full attack mode. Fortunately she understands iguanid behaviour and knew it was going to happen a split second before it did. She knocked him to the side but still got minor scratches and teeth scrapes. Once on the ground he attempted to continue the attack and I used a broom to discourage that behaviour. We still LOVE Spike but I believe we'll stop hand feeding him for a while..LOL...Patty is quite fond of her nose and would like to keep it!!!!!Certainly if you grab one that doesn't want to be grabbed you better be ready for a fight and it could end in SERIOUS INJURY to the grabber. I did mean not viscious as NOT seeking you out to hurt you. Although after the Iguana incident yesterday I would hate to tangle with one of my 30 lbs males in a 12' x 15' enclosure...thanks...Handsome Andros Iguana. In the 1970's I did a lot of talks in the Bahama's particulary the Exuma group at the request of the Bahama's National Trust about why eating "guanas' is not a good thing to do. Lynn Holowesko was the President during that time. Professor Ober here in Miami had given me a subadult Andros Cyclura and I took her over to make the lectures more exciting. Since I only had the one and they at that time had 2 males at Hope Gardens I gave her to the Trust when my work was done. We had posters made up etc and put them in many schools on all Islands where Cyclura were native at. I like to think that just maybe that early effort helped in some small way because at least now very few Bahamians still hunt and eat "guana's"...thanks
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Tom Crutchfield
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Hey Tom, just saw your new kingsnake ad, and... yup thouse PINK and RED albino iguanas are nothing short of amazing. Maybe you could use that wild male to inject some new genetics into your project, it would make him pay for the trobble he is giving you. And yes, some times we just need to give them space.

This year I'm using a now adult albino male to outbreed into some adult red Green Iguanas and one nice normal Green that broke into the adults enclosure as a baby and wouldn't go away. I raised her up and now she's 3 years old and will get the attention[ hopefully] of the albino male....thanks
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Tom Crutchfield
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Its funny because I remenbar that in one of your last years ads in wich you were selling some very neat red igs, you were telling your intencion to breed the red bloodline into the albino form. Question: are thouse amazing rosed albinos the final result of your project or can we still hope for a even redder albino? If yes, man that will be OWESAME!

No that is NOT the finished producted. In fact this year is the FIRST that I will breed an albino to a red for 100% hets. We'll see in years to come what happens...thanks
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Tom Crutchfield
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Owesame! CANT WAIT to see what comes out! Are there any more green igs morphs you work with or are planing to work with, besides the albino and blue igs, Tom? When do you plan to get a snow ig, he he. It would be pretty neat also if you made avaible rarer green ig locates. I remenbar peruvian green igs were absolutley gorgeous with blue scales sorrounded by black and various shades of emerald green, grey and black. But they now are really hard to come by. And brazilian green igs! Females and babys are emerald green with reticulated brown and black, and adult males turn out between black or grey and white!

The ones from St Lucia are the BEST normals...thanks
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Tom Crutchfield
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They are awesome, but are they "normal" iguana iguana? I have not seen any updates on the taxonimy they might be subs of I.Iguana.
http://www.durrell.org/library/Document/St_Lucia_Volunteer_information_2008.pdf

Yes, they are Iguana iguana but not sure of subspefic taxonomy if any...
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Tom Crutchfield
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Could not agree more they are OWESAME. Are they obtainable?

I've only seen wild ones and I have no idea if you can get permits to export or not. I don't think their really common as I only saw them at a little Zoo and a very few in dry forest areas...
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Tom Crutchfield
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But they shure are cool! I also have a book with photo of a wild green iguana in Guatemala with a PINK head

Sorry I didn't see this post...thanks
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Tom Crutchfield
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