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I was watching the prehistoricpets.com show on youtube and Jay and Tim bred a ivory retic male to a albino tiger female and produced a very strange clutch witch produced platinum, platinum tigers, an albino and a abu ivory. So far the ivory gene when bred to a specific mutation it produces:

Ivory x Ivory:

-Ivory
-Ultra Ivory
-Abu Ivory

Ivory x Platinum:

-Platinum
-Ivory
-Ultra Ivory

Ivory x Albino:

-Platinum
-Albino
-Abu Ivory

so what would you get if you bred a ultra ivory to one another and a abu ivory to one another also. So Jay or Tim can you post the clutch of that litter and any new or exciting clutches to us and what is your take on this gene also.

Thanks.

I know that your designation "Abu" is for the luesistic Ivory but why that designation?

I say Abu Ivory because ''Black Eye'' Leucistic retic is only form from a Fire x Fire witch is a new line of Platinum witch produces the ''Black Eye'' Lucy of the bat and not to a completely different snake like the ivory. The Ivory gene I think is a double Co-Dom witch you have to breed two together so it is a incomplete gene so the term ''Black Eye'' Leucistic from the Ivory x Ivory is a Abu Ivory.

My mistake a Recesive Co-Dom gene not a Double Co-Dom, my mistake.

Fire retic is just another name for Platinum. They are the same thing, Bob called his fire and kevin called his platinum, they were animals from the same group that were all imported together.

I understand the fire/white fire name but I'm talkin' about a new line of platinum witch was available on kingsnake.com about a year or two ago and this line produces only from a fire x fire: normal, fire, ''Black Eye'' Leucistic. There is no ivory or any patchey white snake but a pure patternless white snake.

i dont understand what you are meaning. the platinum "gene" produces 4 possible outcomes: platty's, ivories, ultraivories, and black-eyed lucy's. it basically works as a co-dom version of the clark strain albino. when two fire/platty's are bred together, there are a chance of producing, ivories, ultras, and/or lucy's
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retic is king of kings

1.0 Tiger Retic
1.0 Albino Tiger Retic
0.1 Striped Tiger Retic (het albino)
0.1 Salmon Boa
1.0 Albino Boa
0.1 False Water Cobra

No, When you breed a Platinum to a Platinum you only get platinums, normals and ivorys. No ultra ivorys or abu ivorys. You have to breed a platinum back to a ivory to get the ultra ivorys or a ivory to a ivory also produces a ultra ivory too. The abu ivory is only from a ivory to a ivory or now we can get them when breeding a ivory to an albino.

when you breed a platty to a platty, you have a chance of getting any one or combination of the three superforms. a platty x platty can produce lucy's, ivories, or ultra's. since all three "phases" are a super form of that co-dom gene, all three are possible. the chances of producing ultras and lucy's are very very low when breeding a platty x platty, but they are there
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retic is king of kings

1.0 Tiger Retic
1.0 Albino Tiger Retic
0.1 Striped Tiger Retic (het albino)
0.1 Salmon Boa
1.0 Albino Boa
0.1 False Water Cobra

That might be true but I have never herd or seen that happen and I only seen and herd of a abu ivory being produced from an ivory x ivory breeding cause the first time it was produced was from a ivory x ivory breeding.

oh dont get me wrong, i have never seen it either. and your odds are better of producing a lucy with an ivory x ivory or ultra ivory x ultra ivory, or any combo of the the two. im just going by the first ever lucy that was wild caught and bred to a normal and produces all fire/platty's. you have to have the gene gods and perfect genetics in place to get one of those things.
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retic is king of kings

1.0 Tiger Retic
1.0 Albino Tiger Retic
0.1 Striped Tiger Retic (het albino)
0.1 Salmon Boa
1.0 Albino Boa
0.1 False Water Cobra

True, True and I wounder what a Ultra Ivory x Ultra Ivory will produce, maybe a very high yellow lemon snake with very little white like a lemon-meraine pie. Also what will a Abu Ivory x Abu Ivory will produce also maybe a ''Blue Eye'' Leucistic but I doubt it, but maybe.

boy, an ultra x ultra. wow, that would/will be some crazy stuff. i cant wait (although i would love to do it) to see an ivory het albino x ivory het albino, and maybe get a red eyed lucy
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retic is king of kings

1.0 Tiger Retic
1.0 Albino Tiger Retic
0.1 Striped Tiger Retic (het albino)
0.1 Salmon Boa
1.0 Albino Boa
0.1 False Water Cobra