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P. d. deppei with locality data

Sunherp Oct 29, 2009 03:18 PM

Being in the process of moving has required me to impose on my buddy Dell Despain to care for a portion of my collection. I have focused primarily on locality North American milksnakes, but do have a number of other, interesting critters as well (especially locality specific animals, since I dig that natural history information). Dell has taken the time to not only care for some of my animals, but to photograph a few, too!

What follows is a few shots he took of one of my Rancho Santa Barbara, Durango, Mexico locality Pituophis deppei deppei yearlings. Enjoy!

-Cole Grover

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Replies (13)

ginter Oct 29, 2009 04:05 PM

much thanks to Del........ It is hard to beat the simple beauty of P. d. deppei! I farmed out my wildtype locality deppei for time and space reasons and currently only have the locality hypo-melanistic morphs.... I do question that decision at times and will probably get a pair of the normal looking animals again.....

RichH Oct 29, 2009 05:09 PM

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monklet Oct 29, 2009 05:24 PM

Love 'em! Great pics too.

DISCERN Oct 29, 2009 07:42 PM

THAT is AMAZING!
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Genesis 1:1

mattkau Oct 29, 2009 07:53 PM

Looking good.
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Matt Kauffman

hermanbronsgeest Oct 30, 2009 04:48 AM

Beautiful colors. I often wondered why juvenile Pituophis deppei have been refered to as 'ugly snakelings'. Doesn't make any sense to me at all.

randywhittington Oct 30, 2009 07:11 AM

Very nice Cole!
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Randy Whittington

sjohn Oct 30, 2009 07:43 AM

Nice Cole...good to have you on the pit forum. As a lurker over on the milksnake forum I always enjoy seeing your N. America milks. --Scott

Sunherp Oct 30, 2009 09:30 AM

I appreciate the kind words. Though I'm a "milk-head" at heart, I couldn't pass up the chance to work with these beautiful animals from a rarely seen locale. They've been a pleasure to keep, and I'm impressed with how well they feed and how quickly they've grown. At around 14 months old they're just shy of 3 feet in length and take adult mice with gusto. While certainly not as quick-growing as P. c. sayi I've kept, they beat the pants off of the small milksnakes I'm used to!

With regard to their husbandry, I keep the P. deppei deppei individually in smallish plastic tubs (perimeter = 1.5-2 times the length of the animal). My experience has shown that small tubs work best with small, nervous milks to improve feeding response and discourage regurgitation, so I figured I'd try similar husbandry techniques on these reportedly delicate Pits. I use shredded aspen as a substrate and keep water available at all times. I offer all of my animals a wide thermal gradient (~88F on the hot end to ~70F on the cool end), which also promotes healty digestion and improves feeding response (...and allows better disease resistance, as John Ginter pointed out in a thread below).

Thanks again, guys!
-Cole

Jason Nelson Oct 30, 2009 12:32 PM

Wow nice color contrast. I really like that!

Jason

okeeteekid Oct 30, 2009 03:33 PM

very nice and clean looking, with lots of contrast.
Greg c

Spankenstyne Oct 31, 2009 02:32 PM

Too bad they're unavailable (the pictures). I did see them for a moment yesterday though and they looked fantastic, too bad we can't still see them.

terryd Nov 01, 2009 08:39 PM

-Dell
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