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Hi Everyone,

I am Writing a research paper on Reptile Law and how it affects the reptile industry for a Business law class, and I was hoping I could find a few people to answer a couple of questions for me, so that I can include some thoughts from real people active in the industry in my essay. If anyone is willing to answer these, it will be highly appreciated.I would like to get the name and business name of each person to respond, so that I can cite you each as one of my sources. responses can be emailed to jrobinson3@csustan.edu, or simply posted onto this post. Here are the questions:

1) What are your thoughts/feelings about the proposed non native species ban hr669?
2) If passed, how will hr669 affect your business?

Again, all responses are much appreciated.

Thanks,
Jeremy

in one of the python forums...Lampropeltis isn't really affected by an alien speices ban.

>> "Lampropeltis isn't really affected by an alien speices ban."

Well, at least for the time being anyway. You can never under-estimate the power of the snake-illiterate general public.

Given time, they might eventually classify a freakin' scarlet kingsnake as a dangerous constrictor!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

Given time, they might eventually classify a freakin' scarlet kingsnake as a dangerous constrictor!

Funny you mention that because it may be true. A few years ago when I had F&G raid my home because of Florida kings. At that time i worked had hybrids. They commented that they could take the hybrids becaue anything even remotly resembling a venoumos or native snake will be considered as illegal. It just has to remotly resemble it. This was the biologist telling me this. They were examining the hybrids and were completly misidentifying them.

That is when i decided to get out of the hybrids.

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www.Bluerosy.com

"They that can give up essential liberty, to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty or safety." -Benjamin Franklin

interesting looking snake. a campbelli x cal king, maybe? it looks like a good example of the issue discussed a few threads down, of a snake where the skin pattern aligns with the scale pattern--i don't see any dark skin showing around the white scales.

Here’s a picture of some of the very best gopher tortoise, Indigo, fox, burrowing owl, bobcat, skunk and armadillo habitat, etc. the world has ever produced.
Oops, my bad, that should read, “was...” Thanks for the super job of protecting wildlife, to whom it may concern...

LOL!,...that was a point very well done!

The way you did it was really funny, but the reality of it is truly sad as we all know.

It's really sad how the world actually turns now days.

Some of the personal snake salvage stories in Hubbs' getula book are pretty darn sad too, where he and some other's collected all they possibly could before they got bulldozed over. Certainly not just snakes by any means either, ALL SORTS of wildlife.

Living in Florida, I sometimes picture in my head Indigos and Gopher Tortoises and tons of other animals being buried alive by relentless so-called human "progress".

~Doug

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

HAHAHA!!,...yeah, I can plainly see that one is a highly venomous Banded Krait from India..LOL!

What a bunch of complete bungling "keystone cops" those guys were..LOL!!!!!

~Doug

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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

I don't know if it will help your paper but you are welcome to contact me and i will share my experiences when I had 4 law enfocement agencies come to my door because i had legal snakes.

The Dept of Agriculture, animals control armed F&G and locale police as well as herpetologists and biologists assiting them surrounded my house and told mne they did not need a warrant since what i was doing involved animals and no warrant was neccessary to enter my premesis. Which they did and trampled all over my house, drawers, closets, attic ect. where there were no reptiles.

needless to say they will never be back to my house because what they did was stupid on their part because they thought Florida kings were native to Georgia based on an outdated field guide the zoo herpetologists used. After they left and told me they would be back to remove my snakes (there was to many for them to take all my snakes on that day and they needed to prepare and return with proper truck to remove) i had the opportunity to send info from DNA tests done from PHD Len Kyrsco and after that they just said i am okay 9by phone) and never sent me a letter to confirm anything and just wanted to sweep it under the rug.

I think theyre problem with not giving me anything in writing for a release was they just busted sevral people for having florida kings in GA. they confiscated the snakes and fined the people. After there experience with me they just left the whole thing alone. ...for now at least.

h

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www.Bluerosy.com

"They that can give up essential liberty, to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty or safety." -Benjamin Franklin

what the hell was that thing?! a baby pig is the closest I can guess but the feet don't look right.

While morphs are not my thing, I must admit those are some pretty cool looking animals. What the hell is that creature film looking pig,rabbit thing though Rainer?

Of all the snake pics I posted you guys mention the pig looking thing. LOL!

It is a hairless hamster. Snake food.
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www.Bluerosy.com

"They that can give up essential liberty, to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty or safety." -Benjamin Franklin

It's that rat-man from Scare Tactics, lol!
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Todd Hughes

I mentioned the snakes but that thing freaked me out a bit and I HAD to know what it was. I was starting to think you were a mad scientist.LOL!

it was freakish and weird,always things that draw comments My next guess was going to be a de-shelled armadillo...

lmao! Now THAT'S funny!
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Todd Hughes

Rainier,

Those are some beautiful snakes, but some IDs would be helpful.
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Kent

0.1 Hypomelanistic striped cornsnake
1.0 Lavender cornsnake
1.2 Gray-banded kingsnakes, blairs phase
0.0.15 brown anoles