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I just wanted to share some pics I took tonight.....I thought some of these came out pretty nice......
I have only a few Getula but really like them alot....I miss having some calikings around so I may get a couple for next year.....

I hope you like them....

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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

what is that?
They're all nice but DAMN. That one is killer.

>>what is that?
>>They're all nice but DAMN. That one is killer.

Thank you for the compliment.....
Check out the LONG thread below that started about 2 days ago.....
It is a yellow amelanistic Holbrooki that I got from Isis Reptiles. I plan on pairing her up with some wild collected Holbrooki from just north of here in Calhoun Co., TX....Todd (antelope) has a nice male for her this coming season...Their offspring will be nice yellow and black Speckled kings but will carry the yellow amel trait....I hope to eventually produce some like her in a few years....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

ah. I shoulda realized that; I saw that thread and commented in it. That is one killer snake.

>>ah. I shoulda realized that; I saw that thread and commented in it. That is one killer snake.

Thanks man......I agree with you....She is ONE KILLER snake.....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

as always, the axanthic splendies do for me and the het whitewalls are probably the cleanest specks around. That amel is hotter than the midday sun in August!!! john, I suggest you give blinders away with every purchase!
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Todd Hughes

>>as always, the axanthic splendies do for me and the het whitewalls are probably the cleanest specks around. That amel is hotter than the midday sun in August!!! john, I suggest you give blinders away with every purchase!
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>>Todd Hughes
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

do you have a photo of that animal as a baby? I'm not sure if it's the one from below, but I took that neonate photo as an offspring of this adult. Very interesting -- not discrediting anything at all -- but I just wondered what it looked like as a baby is all. Thanks.
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Jerry Kruse

And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."

>>do you have a photo of that animal as a baby? I'm not sure if it's the one from below, but I took that neonate photo as an offspring of this adult. Very interesting -- not discrediting anything at all -- but I just wondered what it looked like as a baby is all. Thanks.

Mike at Isis Reptiles sent me this picture of one of her offspring from last year.....He said he purchased 6 amels and two of them turned yellow over time(I got one)...
Here's a pic of her offspring last year.....

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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

If I posted that pic on this forum or saw it on any table I would say that's an amel Holbrooki.....How about you?
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

I would too, and I think Jerry(and "most" other's) also probably would as well.

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

>>I would too, and I think Jerry(and "most" other's) also probably would as well.

I think that offspring is proof enough that there isn't any "banana king" in it....I see no other influences other than holbrooki.....Isis sold these offspring as pure holbrooki...Isis sold this adult yellow amel as a holbrooki so I guess Thomas is again judging their integrity.....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

>>>Isis sold this adult yellow amel as a holbrooki so I guess Thomas is again judging their integrity.....

I never judged or questioned their integrity john why do you keep LIEING?. just answer the question did mike produce that animal? or did he buy raise and then sell you that animal IE he has/had no prior history. its a simple question wtf???
,,,,,,,,thomas davis
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Morphs... just like baseball cards BUT ALIVE, how cool is that???

my website www.barmollysplace.com

What color is the sky in your friggin world Thomas?...
I've said many times that he did not produce it....Look at the very first post concerning this animal...
They sold this one and have another that turned yellow...They sell offspring from these as pure holbrooki and that's all they work with is pure Holbrooki...
So you ARE attacking their integrity!
Give him a call...he will certainly straighten you out....Or maybe not....cause it is like talking to the wall....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

>>>I've said many times that he did not produce it.

> so theres no known traceable lineage on this animal so marketing offspring from it as pure trueblue holbrooki would be MISrepresentation. nuff said.
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Morphs... just like baseball cards BUT ALIVE, how cool is that???

my website www.barmollysplace.com

"so theres no known traceable lineage on this animal so marketing offspring from it as pure trueblue holbrooki would be MISrepresentation"

So what's with all the "true-blue" holbrooki talk if they are all the same??

Do you even know which way is up?

There are so many holes in every attempt you make to contradict this issue, that it is beyond comprehension.

I got news for ya bro!, much of the stuff YOU sell gets misrepresented down the line FAR MORE OFTEN than this particular snake ever could. Here is just ONE simple example, although I could name many more, but let's just stick to ONE sice it might be easier for you to comprehend here.

Your Pine and Bullsnake crosses. You don't think any of those or their offspring can/will get misrepresented later on after they have left your friendly little vendor table????,....please!!

If you think for one second the answer no, you are even more lost than I first thought.

So let's hear more about your cross preaching hear, because I'm sure you will continue anyway, right?..LOL!

ooohh, the irony!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

the trueblue is for you purist. i could care less about ssp. i feel the same about pituophis.
troll
troll
TROLL!
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Morphs... just like baseball cards BUT ALIVE, how cool is that???

my website www.barmollysplace.com

" i could care less about ssp. i feel the same about pituophis."

Of course you don't care about Pituophis(or any other types either), your breeding practices continue to prove that. But it does piss many others off, because it makes undescernable young that cannot be accurately identified whatsoever. Does someone like YOU care about that?,...of course not!, as long as you can continue to amuse yourself and see what simple possibilities come out of an egg, that's all that matters to you. And you preach to other's about responsibility???..LOL!, put down the friggin' coloring books and crayons long enough see the point here dude!

At least that was simple enough, case closed!..LOL!

You are truly a piece of work bro. Not only do you cause a huge percentage of the very thing you are trying to argue about, but you even like to poke and jab others for their carefully thought out breeding projects.

So reach down into your snake pillowcase and breed the next two snakes that you just happen to pull out, it makes just as much sense as half the ones you come up with on your own anyway. A Northern Pine x Southern Pine breeding should make some very exciting specimens..LOL!!

The guys over on the Pituophis forum curse guys like you, and with good reason too!.

I think you just enjoy throwing a wrench into things, that's all. That's all I have EVER seen from you.

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

>>>The guys over on the Pituophis forum curse guys like you, and with good reason too!.

yeah ok douggy like you would know... FYI i had a GREAT time visiting/partying with john melzer,and randy whittington in daytona. i also am very good friends with the cherry's both john and john jr. and have been for about 10yrs. i beleive them folks know pituophis. so why dont you run along with your crayons and TRY and bully someone else with your lies. it truly is funny how puppy dog like you are in person and how tough you ACT on these boards its quite comical actually, now that i think about it its really rather sad. keep trying to dog me and my animals doug just keep TRYING. a piece of advise for you not that you will listen im sure you will dismiss it with some wannabe amusing veiled threat or something derogatory pertaining to me, my animals, my business, my spelling,etc.etc. cuz thats HOW YOU ROLL you will get the LAST word and thats fine I DONT CARE but here it is douggy... you mess with the bull you get the horns.
enough is enough.
you can carry-on without me im done.
,,,,,,,,,thomas davis
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Morphs... just like baseball cards BUT ALIVE, how cool is that???

my website www.barmollysplace.com

I'm quite sure this broken record would make more sense.

~Doug

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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

>>>It is a yellow amelanistic Holbrooki that I got from Isis Reptiles. I plan on pairing her up with some wild collected Holbrooki from just north of here in Calhoun Co., TX....Todd (antelope) has a nice male for her this coming season...Their offspring will be nice yellow and black Speckled kings but will carry the yellow amel trait....

>actually nobody knows what "it" is other trueblue GETULA. its my understanding isis didnt produce that animal and just raised and then brokered it,(is that right?) cuz see theres a bit of a differance there... BIG differance actually... so why keep bringing who you got it from up? it has nothing to do with the actual lineage of said animal?!?!?
calling and marketing offspring from "it" as trueblue pure holbrooki without knowing the full lineage history is false and misleading. especially for the purist who want natural trueblue pure holbrooki, i suppose when/if you do get amels from it by todds speck that will make them locale specific holbrooki as well(and my education level is always brought up roflmao)...oh the humanity!
but i do agree its very pretty and more like it need to be made for the hobby. and i sincerely do wish you luck with all of your snakes and breedings.
getula do rule and after all, we are all getula heads here...aint we?
remember getula is getula is getula to me but im the minority with that thinking many want trueblue pure ssp.and worship taxonomy as a religion is it fair to them to propagate unknowns and pass them as pure? where is the line drawn? way i see it is you are either honest or your not in the representation of your animals its simple as that.

,,,,,,,,thomas davis
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Morphs... just like baseball cards BUT ALIVE, how cool is that???

my website www.barmollysplace.com

"remember getula is getula is getula to me but im the minority with that thinking"

LOL!, boy!, you can say THAT again!, ........but please don't actually!

Do you realize just how ridiculous you are for starting this thing all over again???,...Jeeeezus!!!.

APPARENTLY NOT!!(as usual)

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

not starting anything up doug sure does seem like you are though, mad about your spanking below huh? well get over it.
this was a sincere post to john lassiter not you anyone reading it would see that EXCEPT you!
why must you TROLL every one of my post? its very apparent you do not agree with my views about getula and ya know what I DONT CARE i am allowed to express them whether you like them or not so shoo fly dont bother me.
,,,,,,,,,thomas davis
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Morphs... just like baseball cards BUT ALIVE, how cool is that???

my website www.barmollysplace.com

"why must you TROLL every one of my post?"

That has GOT to be the most comical statement I have ever read dude!

Take a look several feet down, and tell me who trolls for what, and who?..LOL! that is exactly what YOU do.

Anyway, enjoy it since you brought it all up again. You are are similar to someone that keeps revisiting their crime scene, they just can never get enough.

As Jerry pointed out before, you just just like the attention from all this, nevermind it is all insanely negative attention.

bye-bye!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

The only one trolling is you Thomas.....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

so much for sincerity and honesty.
good luck
,,,,,,,,,thomas davis
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Morphs... just like baseball cards BUT ALIVE, how cool is that???

my website www.barmollysplace.com

Thomas....This is not your snake so go play with yours....
NOW stop it before I meet you in Daytona....
I can out drink you for sure....LOL
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

It is a holbrooki.....
And I will not ever call them locale specific after breeding it to a wild caught specimen....
But it is pure holbrooki....
I think you should call up Mike at Isis since YOU are the only one so concerned with this.....
Or shoot me an email so I can tell you how I really feel about your obsession with yellow snake....

Also...I thought you said "Enuff Said" down below....I agreed to disagree with you not...I did not let you win or get the best of me because you are beginning to sound like a hounding wife that needs be told they are right just to "SHUT THEM UP"....LOL
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

Thomas, you said your piece, now let it go. You are looking like a fool.

Kerby...

thanks kerby, i will try.
,,,,,,thomas
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Morphs... just like baseball cards BUT ALIVE, how cool is that???

my website www.barmollysplace.com

No Thomas that won't fly, they won't be Calhouns because nobody but me and Lloyd Heilbrun has any. It will be marketed as pure holbrooki, I imagine, much to your chagrin. John believes it, I believe it and the rest of the world is making up their own minds as we speak, lol! Crap Thomas, they aren't even bred yet, wtf? If you want some your probably making it harder to get on the list, lol! I love ya' like a brother! If you want some 100% locality getula of the speckled phenotype, you know where to get them! You know lots of places to get them! but you are welcome to mine if that's what you are into. If I make those black morphs outts this line, I hope you can take my word for it, as I have laid it all out on the line here for all to see. if not, that's cool, more power to ya'!
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Todd Hughes

>>>I hope you can take my word for it, as I have laid it all out on the line here for all to see.

yes todd of course i take your word. good to hear at least the offspring wont be marketed as locale specific. and see ive laid it all out to see also and because i dont fall in line im kicked in the teeth for expressing my viewpoints and the FACT that there is no history on this paticular animal other than it was bought in a petstore! ohh but its pure... FINE whatever im done.
and no i dont want any of yours i can go catch my own if i wanted some and sure dont want any from this line after all this crap!
,,,,,,,,,thomas
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Morphs... just like baseball cards BUT ALIVE, how cool is that???

my website www.barmollysplace.com

FINE whatever im done.
>>and no i dont want any of yours i can go catch my own if i wanted some and sure dont want any from this line after all this crap!

I hope you are actually telling the honest truth...
I'm sure sad you don't want any....Yeah right!.....
Damn I lost a sale....I could give a Rat's A$$..
And the only crap was slung by you alone Tommyboy...
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

No one ever said they would be marketed as such, John wouldn't do that nor I. We both wouldn't let the other do that. What was stated was we want to use the yellowest snake to get the end result, and oh yeah, known holbrooki. If you cannot see it is a holbrooki, just be content to know it is pure getula. I don't know why it bothers you, you said it is pure getula in your opinion, why would it matter to you if we all believe it to be holbrooki? I'd use that snake to make yellow snakes any day, and I'd use it all day long to make yellow holbrooki. I held it, I looked at it, I believe it. To be overly concerned about what it is marketed as, shows you believe us both to be dishonest. I resent that, and I know John really does. Purist smurist, locality is what matters to me Thomas when I sell my snakes to anyone.
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Todd Hughes

Those pics did turn out real nice!, and the subjects are really nice as well.

I especially like that loud pattern and coloration of the amel splendida!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

>>Those pics did turn out real nice!, and the subjects are really nice as well.
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Thanks Doug.....
The Amel Splendida is also possible het Hypo.....
I am pairing it up with the Axanthic female come Spring time....
Should have some nice looking Double Hets for snow and possible hets for hypo if the male pans out....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

>>I just wanted to share some pics I took tonight.....I thought some of these came out pretty nice......
>>I have only a few Getula but really like them alot....I miss having some calikings around so I may get a couple for next year.....
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>>John Lassiter
>>Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
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www.brandonosbornereptiles.com

Brandon,
I got that Axanthic Female and the Amel Male from Craig Hummel.
Craig got them both from Don Shores.....

That Axanthic girl surely is impressive to say the least....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...