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Does anybody know how old green trees need to be before they could breed?
Joe

If eating well, 18 months.

18 months sounds about right, my V. Kordensis were around that age. Please keep in mind their is a BIG differance between breeding and getting eggs IME. Alot of the dwarfs and Kordensis will show breeding behavior at much lesser ages but only until the females reproduction system has matured and cycles will you actually get eggs.
Bob

Thanks Mike, It seems that nobody on the 4 forums I go on knew that.
Joe

Joe,
Just because your question wasn't answered doesn't mean they didn't know the answer.

I guess you are right Nate.There are many people that do not want to share their knowledge. I guess that maybe they feel that that they would rather keep the price higher by less people breeding them. Thanks for the people that share.
Joe

No Joe, not a selfish motivation what so ever. But I think that after years of saying the same ol stuff they tire of doing it again to watch the same result. Ya know insanity is said to be doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. I believe those people you are referring to have answered questions to the point of approaching insanity. If you think the "guarding of knowledge" is what is keeping people from succesfully breeding varanids I feel you are destined for failure like so many others. I hope not Joe and I wish you luck.

Nate

Let me quantify my statement a bit. Firstly, I am no accomplished breeder. I am close friends with the much maligned Frank Retes but I don't get spoon fed answers to my questions. But the questions you ask are not the questions of someone approaching breeding their monitors. The last 2 questions you have asked are the wrong questions and if you had spent any time reading the archives would have found your answers yourself. Especially the one about breeding age. Who gives a snot when they are old enough to breed. It has been written many times that the most succesful way to set up a breeding group is to raise them together. If they are raised together and your conditions are right they will breed when they are ready to, regardless of what time someone TOLD you they'd breed. You keep asking species specific husbandry questions when it has been said many times that the basics are not species specific. Monitor husbandry is monitor husbandry with very few variables.

Additionally, when you first joined the other site you asked a question of Frank, when he gave you an answer you didn't like you chastised him for "feeding" his ego. Funny that he might not jump to answer your questions again.

Again, I am not a "succesful" monitor breeder. But there is a difference between me and others. I KNOW where my failings are and what I have to work on. I don't blame others or my animals. BTW my failings are that I don't give them enough fuel, and my nesting has always sucked. I also don't pay enough attention to my females to know when they are cycling and laying.

Truly, I do wish you luck. Monitors esp prasinus are not bred near often enough.

Nate

I have bred monitors/helodermas for the last 12 years and even hatched W/C Savannah eggs in the 80s, from my experience many people are mislead by groups, GROUPS belong in the 70s in the San Fran area among people not monitors. Pairs are the way to go to raising them up individually until proper sex determination has been made has been bread and butter for us. When you loose sight of common sense you are doomed to fail, most people have common sense it is the ones that use it that succeed! Simple, dont complicate it.
Bob
www.herphatch.com

Thanks for your OPINION, Nate.
Cheers, Joe

Hello Joe,
No problem, just passing on info that I learned from FR... Best to you- Mike S