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Hi, I believe I collected this Blair's in 1998 on Hwy. 277 but I am not sure. Does anybody have my phone number so I could call myself and ask me if this is the snake I collected? I am not posting this to discredit myself or make myself look bad. I just want to know the truth. If anybody has talked to me recently please let me know.

yes...you were in the that motel in del rio......motel ehhhhh...ah krap it'll come to me....you caught it early ....not far from the blinking light where 377 cuts in....before red bluff..it was dark....

You know, I think you are right. Red Roof Inn or Super 8 I think it was called at the time, it's the one with the big A-frame office. Shawn D. pulled up behind me and said he would jump ahead a few cuts and leave the next ones for me. A few minutes later on one of the cuts Shawn had left for me, there it was. It was early, about 10:30 I think.

yea it was early...ithink you were driving a white pickup truck.....

Yes a white Toyota. I still have it and it has approx 289,000 miles and still runs, same engine and passed smog in CA a couple days ago. What's funny is I can remember the snake but I don't remember knowing you back then! I do remember the last time we all ate at the China Buffet, that was fun.

i understand completely.....i can remember every snake i've seen.....but people are hazey....

Now you sound a little bit like Ric. Maybe you DID sell him those pin-stripe Lajitas...LOL! I realize the post was tongue in cheek, but your 277 looks vitually identical to a female Juno Road I produced in the 90's and held back. Eventually, I sold her because my Dryden locales were producing better looking blairs-IMO. I wish I had kept a pic of her just for this occasion.

Robert

aren't juno roadlocale and 277 like on a straight line "as the crow flies"???....so maybe gene flow occurs between the two areas???....from what i've witnessed many 277 and juno alterna are extremely similar.....anywhoo here's a west langtry

Bob,

You keep showing Darth Vader and saying "here is a West Langtry". I could swear I was there the nite you caught him and I distinctly remember he was from East Langtry. I do believe it was dark that nite.

ECT

Wopuld I lie??????

he came from the radio towers.....you're thinking of the light phase me and goerge caught on the red cut east of town.....we thought it was a fake snake...cause you were across 90...watching us come up the road...but the dor on the cut was cheating....that ss[bleep] ain't right.....

Was just trying to get a rise out of you. You gotta admit it was pretty funny watching everyone get all excited. I just told my wife the story again last nite. She laughed again. LOL

which sstory

The one with the snake that was "fake" and crawlind down the cut into the bushes when You and George with the kid. The kid ran out of the car and tumbled onto the ground, you running up to a dead snake and then the "ss---t aint right". That story. ha ha

one os thousands......

Now THAT is good comedy
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Yes, that is funny. I was wondering if you have pictures of all the baby 277's you produced. Then see if you can go through and find a 277 that matches that light phase that was posted as a Lajitas. I bought some light phase 277 alterna from you, but they looked nothing like the two in the picture, and they have grown up to look nothing like those lajitas as adults. Your colors of your 277's are totally different. I had some. You should be able two remember if you produced one like that light phase I would think. Because everyone thinks I should remember every baby I produced, and every person that I have met in my life? Especially Robert. How many of the light phases you produced turned out to be black like the sibling to the one in the photo. Did you sell any to me or any at all that that have ever turned out that dark. I had to call Norm Nunley recently to get the name of Jess Whitfield, because he caught the observatory animals which produced many of my offspring for years. My mother died in her mid 50's from conditions caused by alzheimers. At age 48 she did not recognize her children and she would ask us who we were when we would visit her. Yes, I have a terrible memory. But thank GOD I have not lost it totally. I still remember some things, but not all. I am trying hard to hang on to my memory but it is very difficult. It is not something that people should make fun of. I can remember important conversations for a month or so, but then many become vague. I have to write everything down now. It gets embarrasing when I forget things. My father tells me the same joke over and over until he gets tired of telling it. He asks me everytime if I have have heard that joke. I tell him no, so he can tell it again. There might be a day for real, Aaron, when you might look at that picture and even wonder who took it, LOL... Ric

"Because everyone thinks I should remember every baby I produced, and every person that I have met in my life? Especially Robert."

Not EVERY, just ONE...LOL! And, judging from what's going on below, you may want to add "conversation" to that list.

Robert

Its funny until you're the one on the roasting spit! Several years back I purchased a coastal plains milk from someone who's integrity I've never questioned. That snake was purchased with cursory locality info as part of a generic project and was said to be from VA Beach, VA. Down the line I sold the same snake along with the information I had to another collector. The new owner began to doubt its authenticity but never said a word about it to me directly. When I finally did find out there was dissatisfaction I tried to clarify the lineage of the animal for him. After 10 years however the guy I purchased the snake from could not recall the desired details. To me this does not impugn the guy I got it from nor does it impugn me for selling the snake with the info that I had. Fact is even without specific recollection I trust the original source over the speculations of the cadre of other self-professed experts who have actively used my "passing bad information" in order to build their sales of locality animals.

The thing is the animal was sold to me for $100 as part of a generic project and the local info provided was a simple plus, there was no reason to lie about the animal's origins. Additionally, I sold the animal (a proven adult female) again for $100. All around I considered the transactions to be trades amongst friends yet after years I still take heat over this. Had I offered the female and info for the going price there would surely have been some checking around first! Funny how someone can jump on a good price and then have second thoughts and think the seller is at fault. The thing is, way too often locality people, just like everyone else, hear what they want to hear and make judgment calls that they later wish they hadn't. Being a locality guy doesn't make you smarter, less susceptible to human foibles or morally superior. It only means that you like to breed by locality. Simply because one's knowledge of the populations and criteria of what is considered "a" locality and the burden of proof required constantly shifts doesn't give the right to bash others who have largely played by the rules. You can do it sure, but don't be surprised when those getting roasted rightly take offense and bystanders see this ridicules behavior as reprehensible.
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“Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind.” Emmerson

Because I agree with practically everything you wrote. Credibility is probably relative and subjective. For some folks, lack of credibility is defined by a deliberate misrepresentation. For other folks, mistakes that result from poor judgement or simple confusion can affect a person’s credibility, especially when mistakes are prevalent and unresolved. I don’t know what to tell you - sorry.

Robert

I believe these were Aaron's last public words about what happened regarding the pin stripe "Lajitas":

"After some digging I believe that what Adam ended up with was some 277's that were produced by Dave Long which I got from Dave and sold. I do not know how they became "Lajitas" because I knew they were 277's when I got them from Dave. I knew this because the female that produced them was a light alterna collected by me and Dave and we were splitting clutches. The male that was used was a dark alterna he collected himself which he backed up with a cb light Sweetman alterna and maybe some other 277 males as well. The point being I knew they were 277's at the time and they cerainly do look like 277's today, IMHO."

And, here's the link:
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All I am asking for is some proof. Like photos or something. I had some alterna phase that I bought from him. But none of them ever looked like those. Even the ones I did not buy did not.. Ric

Have you ever produced any black pinstripe phase back then. Have you ever, even lately. I have never heard of you producing any. Thanks Aaron... Ric

I have never produced or owned any black pinstripe alterna from 277. All I have had that comes close was some medium to light 277 babies that were produced by Dave Long and one of the males he used was a black alterna. We were splitting clutches and I never kept any of those babies but those are the only snakes I can remember owning that might have one turn black and one stay light. I don't know for sure that those are what you got from me that maybe turned into Lajitas accidentally.
I have not ever claimed to have a perfect memory. Regarding the Lajitas I was only using deductive reasoning.
The start of this thread was meant to be a joke, aimed at myself.

Perhaps the person you should be going to for photos is Dave Long, because according to Aaron, Dave Long produced these babies and “the male that was used to produce the babies was a DARK alterna he collected himself.” Do you see what I mean?

Robert

Thanks Robert. Just out of curiousity I will call Dave. I will let you know what he say's. I want him to look at the snakes also and see if he might remember them. But I still want to know if Aaron has gotten any light phase from breedings besides this one, or if he has photos of the babies. I believe he keeps pictures of his clutches, but I could be wrong. Thanks... Ric