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Who all is working with Melanistic Thayeri?
Just curious as my belief is there isn't many out there anymore working with them......
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

Hey John,
I'd be curious too. I saw a couple at Daytona but not many. There one on my mexicana wish list.

Jeremy
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Jeremy Pierce
Shade Tree Exotics
shade-tree-exotics@att.net

>>Hey John,
>>I'd be curious too. I saw a couple at Daytona but not many. There one on my mexicana wish list.

Jerimey...
The only Melanistics I saw at Daytona were "het" amel.
And I saw some solid white amels with them.....Certainly Ruthveni Crosses....And not marked as such....That irked me.
But you may have seen something I didn't since you snagged the granite mex mex before I could....LOL
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

Like this?

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Herp Conservation Unlimited

If people really learn from their mistakes, I should be like the smartest guy in the world

>>Like this?

YEP...Just like that....LOL
But..Besides you and I, who else plans on producing any this coming season?
Does anyone know of others working with Melanistic Thayeri?
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

I'm pretty sure Joe may have some hets to work with from Brad Chambers and Brad has some, maybe John Cherry? I'll be getting hets or solids from them next year. Lance, put me on the list and of course John, on yours, lol!
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Todd Hughes

John Cherry produces a few every year.
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Michelle
www.AssortedSerpents.com
All things bright and beautiful,
All creatures great and small,
All things wise and wonderful:
The Lord God made them all.

So it is safe to say that we can count on one hand how many people will potentially produce Melanistic thayeri next year?
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

So it is safe to say that we can count on one hand how many people will potentially produce Melanistic thayeri next year?

I am a conservative optimist myself and would only count them when they hatch....

But I do enjoy counting
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Herp Conservation Unlimited

If people really learn from their mistakes, I should be like the smartest guy in the world

>>So it is safe to say that we can count on one hand how many people will potentially produce Melanistic thayeri next year?
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>>I am a conservative optimist myself and would only count them when they hatch....

Yep....Thus the words "potentially produce".......LOL
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

Yes, I would say one hand is about it.
I do have a male melanistic but not a female.
The best I can do is put him with some darker females.
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Michelle
www.AssortedSerpents.com
All things bright and beautiful,
All creatures great and small,
All things wise and wonderful:
The Lord God made them all.

>>Yes, I would say one hand is about it.
>>I do have a male melanistic but not a female.
>>The best I can do is put him with some darker females.

make some "hets" I wanna see what yours will look like...
I am attempting the same thing next Spring with a Black male and that 2005 Dan V female I got from Shannon......
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

John,

I have an Abbott line melanistic male I got from Tim Thomas before his female perished. He is just waiting to be paired up with a nice Lemke line female.

Craig
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God Bless Evolution.

>>John,
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>>I have an Abbott line melanistic male I got from Tim Thomas before his female perished. He is just waiting to be paired up with a nice Lemke line female.

I never heard of Tim Thomas, but I know Lee had some Melanistics some years back.....

And.....I gotcha covered for a female Craig....
We have 2 Lemke Males for 1 Lemke Female so odds are good We'll get some hatchlings.....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

>>And.....I gotcha covered for a female Craig....
>>We have 2 Lemke Males for 1 Lemke Female so odds are good We'll get some hatchlings.

Just for some clarification....When I type we I am referring to Shannon Brown and I......I consider myself lucky to have all these cool animals over here on loan.....

Should turn out to be a stellar year for Mexicana IMO!!!!
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

Folks as far as black thayeri are concerned they are the most elusive of all the color morphs for us to produce.

Each year I get a few, mainly from laredo line milk phases bred to a couple of blacks we have had in the collection for a number of years. Even when you breed black to black it does not seem to raise the incidence of the number of blacks we get. The best ratios seem to come from blacks bred to laredo line milk females.

Because of the rarity of them now days, we are starting to see a lot of Mexican Black kings bred into thayeri, in order to produce black intergrades which really sucks from my standpoint.

It seems in the general quest to breed brighter yellows, oranges, buckskins etc. for the last number of years in the hobby we lost one of the prettiest of the phases ie: blacks.

I am concentrating on trying to produce some of the old style color morphs we saw in nature years ago from specific lines regardless of the color variations.

I hate the thought of losing those colors and patterns as they were the ones that attracted me to thayeri years ago, when Lloyd, Randy L. and a few others were bringing them in from collecting trips to Old Mexico.

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