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Sexual maturity in boas....

rainbowsrus Dec 03, 2009 06:49 PM

Seen it come up from time to time and wondered what others thought about it.

Thinking through the numbers I've seen/read and my own thoughts on the subject and came up with this analogy, what do you all think?

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For my females, I let them get to be at least three years and quite often 4 years old before breeding them. The benefits are larger healthy litters and a larger healthier momma that can turn around and breed again sooner.

I think of it this way, if 3 or 4 years really is optimal for mature females to start reproducing and I seem to remember 2 year old females having been bred, it's like 5-6x the maturity rate of humans.

At 2 years old, a female boa is like a 10-12 year old girl, small, most likely not, but maybe, just maybe mature enough to get pregnant but very likely not mature enough to physically be a good mommy.

At three years old that same female boa is like a 15-18 year old girl. Very likely physically capable of getting pregnant but still might be lacking in maturity.

At four years old, the female boa is like a 20 - 24 year old woman. Note, I'm now calling her a woman because she's now sexually mature and physically capable and ready to get pregnant and have kids.

Same logic applies to males but since they don't carry the babies (ova) they can be mature enough sooner (closer to 8X the human maturity rate) or...

18 month old male boa = 12 year old boy, old enough to get the job done but maybe not done well.

30 month old male boa = 20 year old man, randy as hell and ready to plant his seed anywhere he can.

Not scientific, just my observations and opinions.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (05/26/2009):
36.51 BRB
29.42 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Replies (7)

boidaeaddiction Dec 03, 2009 07:24 PM

I think you are absolutely correct with this post. Based on your accuracy on the matter I'm guessing that you have dealt with this from experience as well as looking to the literature; I know I have been burned plenty over the years.

We have all been in a position where we wanted to breed younger females. They rarely take and if they do they have small litter sizes and have somewhat runty babies for the most part; they the moms also take quite a while to bounce back.

With time and experience, hopefully people will understand what true maturity is for these animals and strive to breed only those which are mature. My take is that you should treat your boas like you would a family member; considering health to be first and foremost.

Thanks for the post.

Trey Schneller

Jonathan_Brady Dec 03, 2009 08:10 PM

What aberrant line are those boas from? They have GREAT color!

jb
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BoidaeAddiction Dec 05, 2009 08:13 PM

They are from an aberrant line that my dad has been working with for the past 6-7 years. The are born from a normal appearing female. She has been with at least 3 different males.

Each litter has aberrant patterns and unique color. The normals are quite an enigma. They almost look like BW caramels without some of the finer features of the caramels which make them appear t-positive.

They are definitely neat and I'm glad to have a few myself! Perhaps I can convince him to post a few pics this weekend.

Trey Schneller

TimS Dec 03, 2009 10:34 PM

I think if more people would breed animals (of all kinds) a little more select based on age size color pattern things would be alot better. Instead of popping out tons of snakes just to try to make that quick $$$$$$

anywhos, nice post and great looking snakes

boaphile Dec 03, 2009 07:44 PM

A very interesting analysis Dr. Dave which I cannot find any fault with except... where does that leave old codgers like us at exactly? I won't ask what this means about our wives. I don't want any serious trouble.
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TimS Dec 03, 2009 10:31 PM

great post Dave

BrownsBoas Dec 04, 2009 01:45 PM

I only breed 4 year olds now.. For all the exact same reasons Dave has said.. I have noticed they breed better,cycle better, and have a more predictable birth cycles than younger females.. And almost always produce perfect problem free litters...

Three year olds definitly have a higher rate of slugg outs, still borns,and death cause by birth complications...

Good stuff Dave!!!

Al Brown/Brown's Boas

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