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cooling conspics?

Jeff Hardwick Dec 03, 2009 07:45 PM

I know a couple people have had success producing E. Conspicillata and I need your experience....
Do these snakes require cooling to 55 or is 65 adequate? What's your experience with brumating and clutch viability? Any mortalities at the 50-55 range?
Any suggestions are greatly appreciated, thanx in advance....Jeff

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Let there be triangulum and lo, the milkhead was born.

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RandyWhittington Dec 06, 2009 09:21 PM

Jeff, I've never kept or bred conspics but looked in Schulz's book. He mentions brumating them at 50 degrees for as long as 5 months. He states their range to be from the foothills to the high mountains of all the main islands of Japan, from 100 to 3000 m. In their northern range and the smaller islands are the only places they have been found in the lowlands and then only on rare occasions. I've looked at the temps in some of those ranges and it gets COLD.
I've had my best reproductive years with the asian subspecies I keep when I've been able to keep them cooler (closer to 55) and conspics are from cooler areas than most of the subspecies I keep.
Best of luck.
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Randy Whittington

Jeff Hardwick Dec 08, 2009 06:55 PM

>>I've had my best reproductive years with the asian subspecies I keep when I've been able to keep them cooler (closer to 55)

That's the info I'd hoped for! Shulz has good info and the temp trend for central China is surprisingly cold, more like southern mid-west US temps and I really wanted to hear from hobbyists with a bit of experience - like you and the info you posted....
Thanx very much Randy, Jeff
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Let there be triangulum and lo, the milkhead was born.

ratsnakehaven Dec 22, 2009 11:40 AM

>>>>I've had my best reproductive years with the asian subspecies I keep when I've been able to keep them cooler (closer to 55)
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>>That's the info I'd hoped for! Shulz has good info and the temp trend for central China is surprisingly cold, more like southern mid-west US temps and I really wanted to hear from hobbyists with a bit of experience - like you and the info you posted....
>>Thanx very much Randy, Jeff
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>>Let there be triangulum and lo, the milkhead was born.

Randy knows a lot about ratsnakes, that's for sure...

I kept conspics before and they do well with cool temps. Probably can keep young ones going all year, but breeding adults need a long cooldown period, like at least 3 months in the 50's. I'm not the authority on these guys either. I've never bred them. Schulz may have, but a guy named "Shane" knows the most I bet. He's been to Japan and caught these in the wild. They can be found from sea level to high in the mtns and like Randy said, it can get very cold.

Conspics are like a very cool adapted Mandarin. They do better in summer when cooler too. Think zonata...LOL!

Terry (Happy Holidays)

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