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http://www.uvguide.co.uk/

This is probably the best source for UV information for reptiles.

Cheers. Todd G.

Hello,
Not necessary to keep(healthy) and breed monitors but some like the colors that the lights reflect off the lizards skin. Spend your money how you wish and best to you- Mike S

I am always puzzled when folks think full spectrum lighting along with correctly applied uv lighting is a big (un-needed) expenditure.
If you haven't got the dough for an 18.99 5.0 reptisun bulb...then should you really be keeping monitors?

Cheers

Todd G.

ps, the uv website above DOES NOT sell anything, they have just done an *excellent* job of compiling UV data that any serious herptoculturist can benefit from.

Todd I know why you're puzzled. It's becuase you probably havn't kept monitors very long WITHOUT UV light and in addition to that havn't produced many generations of them, again without UV light.

But there are those who have, who clearly prove...yes, prove, it is a big, unneeded expenses. Thats the fact, it IS NOT NEEDED. Whether or not it can be of benefit well thats a different story completely that gets applied to many different situations of husbandry differently.

You're being far too one sided on an issue....they may do a great job of explaining but many others can do equally as good a job explaining the opposite included with application....I said APPLICATION, of nonUV light and have the results to prove it, I see no application or long term results on that website...that is captive breeding.

Cheers,
Mike.

When I read that site, it proves that different bulbs TEST differently and produce different testing results.

But it doesn't speak at all to the captive breeding of lizards and the specific needs of success. It certainly doesn't go further to weigh minimal success versus moderate success versus vast success in captive breeding.

More of "this" and less of "that" can be irrelevant. If I came out with a product that had 100 Jabberwockies, while the competitor only offered 63 Jabberwockies, that doesn't make mine better, unless I could show how Jabberwockies are crucial to success.

I have read many times about the limitations of these bulbs- "Don't put them too close because they will cause eye/vision damage". "Use this type over the coil type because the coil type is evil".

These bulbs are a band aid for a larger husbandry problem, but a band aid that may cause blindness if kept too close.

That's not good : )
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robyn@proexotics.com

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Pro Exotics Reptiles

Hey - do you have any captive bred & born Jabberwockies available? If so - how much including shipping? Can you also send a caresheet?

kthxbai!

We do have some available, but shipping is expensive, as we keep them in another galaxy.

Far far away...
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robyn@proexotics.com

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Pro Exotics Reptiles

LOL.

are Varanus jabberwockies a new kind of monitor? Can someone post a picture? If they don't need UV light and can live on the SDZ diet.... I bet they would make a great pet.

Yes - but they are extremely rare. Pro Exotics didn't have any sources with them available right now, but after tons of research and legwork, I finally managed to find an importer.

To my knowledge, NONE exist in the U.S. yet. Until now. My hope is to find a mate and breed him in a couple years when he grows up (he's a hatchling as you can tell from the pics).

Say hello to my little friend.

n/p

Hello Todd G.,
You would be ignorant to not agree that monitors do not need UV light to stay healthy and reproduce, successfully hatch and do it all again... Therefore, unless you are a sales rep for Reptisun 5.0 bulbs, with an agenda, if your monitors require a 5.0 Reptisun or any other UV light- you are failing your lizards in a much greater area- Your understanding of their needs. Best to you- Mike S
P.S.- Your $18.99 light bulbs cost a little less than what I pick up a box of more than 10 at the "depot."

I use UVB on Glauerti and Pilbarensis, I feel the dwarfs or other primary insectivores could use it. I know a guy who produces alot of tristis that claims his hatchlings skulls were like rubber until he incorperated UVB into his husbandry [ on the breeders ]. I have always used it and never had any calcuim related issues on my females or hatchlings. Larger varanids that eat whole bodied prey get D-3 from the livers of the rodents and lower risk to calcium D-3 disease. Certainly a large part of any varanids life in the wild is UVB. Bulbs will never compete with the sun but studies in green iguanas have proven to reverse calcuim related bone disease with some of the better UVB lights. With the depravation of seasonal sunlight loss to humans producing depression [ treated with UV bulbs]I would bet the ranch that if nothing else UVB does impact general health and well being in monitors.
Bob

Hello Bob,
Nice Kim... Put plainly, people will spend their money when and where they choose to no matter what. None of my insectivores have had bone problems and I just dust d3 calcium powder and trade out between crickets, roaches, super worms and pinks- remember that the lizards do the breeding not the "breeder" and the lizards work the best they can with what they are provided by the breeder. It sounds like the tristis breeder and the iguana owners were missing something key in their husbandry that the lights are bandaiding. If it is helping though, I say don't stop at whatever expense until the missing husbandry link is filled, or not. Again, no disrespect, I have never bought them and don't need them now- Best to you- Mike S