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what do you want in the hobby?

varanid Dec 07, 2009 01:13 PM

What new snake(s) do you want to see in the hobby? I'd love to see Pytas (large asian colubrid) in the hobby...or maybe mussuranas...some of the larger, more exotic colubrids.

Anyone else got an animal on their wishlist? Maybe not even one you want but that'd be neat to see people work with.

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mfoux Dec 07, 2009 04:29 PM

I'd love to see someone work with sea snakes. I encountered a couple of these cool snakes while on my honeymoon in Costa Rica and was surprised at how docile they were. My new wife wasn't keen on the idea of me handling them, though all I did pick one up with a stick.
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1.2.0 Hondurans Het Amel
1.1.0 Hondurans Anery, Het Hypo
0.1.0 Honduran Hypo
0.1.0 Honduran Hypo, Het Anery
0.2.0 Pueblans
1.0.0 Pueblan Hypo
0.1.0 Corn Bloodred
0.0.1 GBK Blair's Phase
1.0.0 California King
0.1.0 California King Blue-eyed Blond
0.0.1 Speckled King WC
1.1.0 Brooksi Hypo
0.0.1 Jungle Carpet
0.1.0 Ball, Normal
0.0.1 Sulcata
1.2.1 Leopard Geckos, various morphs
0.1.0 Wife, Caucasius Mexicana

HogBilly Dec 08, 2009 01:12 PM

Ditto this. I saw some in a tank in a Japan zoo once, but I doubt they last too long there as the snakes looked constantly very agitated and stressed. We might just not know enough about them yet. I've heard some crazy-interesting things like they need pockets of freshwater to drink from though they live in the sea, etc.

Another problem for more exotic species might just be food. I know when I'm looking for a new addition to the collection I pass over anything that needs something other than rodents, no matter how sad it makes me. Even if the owner/breeder says they know some obscure place that provides the exotic food, I don't know if they're still going to be in business ten years down the line, you know?

chrish Dec 07, 2009 11:01 PM

There are a few people with Ptyas and Mussaranas in the hobby. Check the Indigo forum for the Mussarana people.

I love Molesnakes (Pseudaspis). I wish they were more popular so that people wouldn't try and get such ridiculous sums of money for them.

I think most of the interesting species are available in some level. Its a lot better than it used to be. The problem is that some species are simply overpriced.
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Chris Harrison
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varanid Dec 07, 2009 11:36 PM

like 800 for a mussurana O.o ouch.
I guess I'm not really part of the solution here; I work with house snakes, kingsnakes and retics...not exactly rare or odd stock. I just think there's so many more snakes than what we see...hell, even in North America, there's the ground snakes, shovel nosed snakes and long nosed snakes...all nice, all small and easy or at least no more difficult than other popular species.

DMong Dec 10, 2009 10:39 AM

I've seen some adult Mussarana in the $400-500 range too. But the piebald and super pied Mussies(all white except for the head) would certainly be priced out of this world when they become available. Pretty darn unique, I must say.

~Doug
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mfoux Dec 08, 2009 07:15 AM

What about crayfish snakes (crawfish if you live in the South)?
There are suddenly tons of them in my family's neighborhood in SW Louisiana, although I grew up there and never saw a single one. My little brother caught a gravid female who birthed 16 babies the next day, all of which he returned to the wild.
Challenging snakes, to be sure, as they eat freshly molted crawfish. Think I can order those from my frozen rodent supplier? LOL.
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1.2.0 Hondurans Het Amel
1.1.0 Hondurans Anery, Het Hypo
0.1.0 Honduran Hypo
0.1.0 Honduran Hypo, Het Anery
0.2.0 Pueblans
1.0.0 Pueblan Hypo
0.1.0 Corn Bloodred
0.0.1 GBK Blair's Phase
1.0.0 California King
0.1.0 California King Blue-eyed Blond
0.0.1 Speckled King WC
1.1.0 Brooksi Hypo
0.0.1 Jungle Carpet
0.1.0 Ball, Normal
0.0.1 Sulcata
1.2.1 Leopard Geckos, various morphs
0.1.0 Wife, Caucasius Mexicana

chris_harper2 Dec 08, 2009 01:05 PM

Would love to see a the Texas/Mexican form of Drymobius established LEGALLY. There have been imports from Honduras and other parts of Cental America but I hear they are not nearly as nice looking as the ones from further north. Certainly the pictures I have seen of both suggest that.

Otherwise, I would love to see the various species of Ptyas, Chironius, Pseustes, Philothamnus, Telescopus and Rhamphiophis established in captivity.

Rhamnophis aethiopissa:

markg Dec 08, 2009 02:29 PM

Ha!

Actually, shovelnose snakes and banded sandsnakes. I think they are great. I kept a shovelnose for a few years. Awesome. I do not believe anybody has produced them in captivity. Even my wife doesn't mind these snakes.
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Mark

KevinM Dec 10, 2009 08:32 AM

I would love to get a pair of nicely colored longnosed feeding well on f/t rodents!! They are priced affordably, and I kept a couple in the past. Never had success getting them on mice though.

aquick Dec 16, 2009 09:17 PM

Snail-eating snakes (Sibon sp.), and tentacled snakes (Erpeton tentaculatum). Seen both, just sporadically. I keep tentacled snakes--super easy to keep and breed, just need a TON of live feeder fish--can be tough to keep fed lol.

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