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Tosha
JET Pythons

nihil facimus sed id bene facimus

Just from opening remarks it looks like they are in favor of amending it to the "9"
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Tosha
JET Pythons

nihil facimus sed id bene facimus

Looks that way to me also Tosha. Just makes me sick watching and listening to it though.

Looks like amended to the 9 with Senator Inhoffe??? only one No.

So did they already vote, I missed the begining? And by ammended to include the 9, does this mean only the nine or all pythons plus anacondas and boa constrictors?

just the 9

They amended it "adding the nine" although they discussed "narrowing" the bill it is still very vague whether they are amending it to just the 9 or adding the 9 to the amendment.
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Tosha
JET Pythons

nihil facimus sed id bene facimus

Yeah it was kinda confusing. Guess we'll have to wait and see what comes out through USARK

Cardin's ammendment is for just the 9. I spoke to some one at the senate epw yesterday and was told this is how it would play out. Of course i was sceptical .But it appears he was right.

If that is true then they have both bills in the house and senate with the same language and a majority favor - this will fly though quickly. A shame really - I wish we would have done more to keep this a Florida issue.
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Tosha
JET Pythons

nihil facimus sed id bene facimus

On a side note to this....did you hear/see when they talked about working to "help" the people affected by this so maybe they can "skin" the animals? What was that? It's early and I'm under the weather but this was like What? What are they talking about?

Tosha did you catch that?

You heard right. Scary isn't it. He's the one that's on our side.

Yeah - I'm not altogether sure as to what he was referring - it seemed to me he was referring to the snake skin trade but as far as I know Lacey Act only applies to live animals so if people wanted to import or trade in snake skins then they still could - IDK.
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Tosha
JET Pythons

nihil facimus sed id bene facimus

Yeah it seemed almost as though they would "give you time" to KILL your snakes, skin them and then sell them? to who? a government agency or something. Absolutely stunning. And this is backed by the Humane Society.....haha...ironic and a joke.

For just a brief moment I'd thought they'd heard about the "send a snake skin to the senate" debacle.
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Tosha
JET Pythons

nihil facimus sed id bene facimus

Who knows.....was just shocked when they started talking about that. Caught me off guard.

I don't think they get it that these are PETS. We love them. I don't know about you guys, but I was pretty horrified when I heard about the skins, to me I might as well be told I'd have to skin my cat. It was offensive.

Regardless of what is ultimately passed, we still need to continue to fight.

You are right after I listened to it again - it appears he is basically saying that people should be able to skin their snakes to make up for any financial loss due to the law. It's rather disgusting and offensive.
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Tosha
JET Pythons

nihil facimus sed id bene facimus

Wow, who knew the snake skin trade was so alive and well in the States. And here I am trying to breed them for money when I should just be killing and skinning them instead.

Yeah that's pretty much waht I took out of it too. Not to mention that , yes, they are pets and I dare say they wouldn't ask other owners of various pets to kill them to " help ease the financial losses", but how, I mean really, how do they expect this to work. Oh yeah, look in the Yellow Pages, there are hundreds of ads for this. Blew me away. What a concept!

Where is the list of what the big nine actually are?
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John Vandegrift

Burmese pythons, northern and southern African pythons, boa constrictors and the yellow anaconda, reticulated python, Deschauensee’s anaconda, green anaconda and Beni anaconda.
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Tosha
JET Pythons

nihil facimus sed id bene facimus

is the hearing over?

if not can someone post a link to it please ?

Thanks

It is over - you can view the archive at:

epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.LiveStream&Hearing_id=6b79ad42-802a-23ad-40fc-2fa705fac4f7
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Tosha
JET Pythons

nihil facimus sed id bene facimus

Thank You Tosha

watch the video. What was the outcome? I've got heartburn from worry and waiting.
Thanks in advance.
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Cheers,
Jessica Gibbs
Ball Pythons; Corn Snakes; Green Tree Python; Jungle Carpet Python; Bci; Bcl; Bco
3.0 Crazy Dogs and 2.0 cats
Some Tropical Fish
...........and growing!

LOL, they think the snakes will thrive in virtually all the lower states.

We don't stand a chance on this. It does appears it going to be just the 9, but ugh, they are so misinformed that we've come in on this too little too late.