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A few pics of a few eating and prior to cleaning

aberrant/striped Outer Banks female

the "classic" Outer Banks female stuffing her face


adult breeder brooksi male


adult breeder brooksi female

young anomaly brooksi female with zero red on her entire body. Other sibs are chock-o-block full of high-red/orange.

a high-red/orange sib male

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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

Nice snakes Doug. I want some of those. I like getula. If I can figure out how to post pics on this forum I will try to post some pics of my black and white cal kings sometime.
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Noah was the first snake collector. ~Eric~

Thanks man!,.........

It is real easy to upload pics, and there are many different ways to do it. I find that Photo Bucket is by far one of the better more convenient ways. You can post as many pics, and any size you want, and also leave spaces in between for caption text too.

It is the ONLY way to roll in my opinion. Go to photobucket.com and get a FREE account and start posting bro!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

Very nice Doug. How big is that first OBX king? Is that a rat he is eating?

Thanks Joe,.....The '08 aberrant/striped female there is 40 inches long now, I just measured her. The other two sticticeps are slightly smaller than she is.

The rodent is a good sized mouse in that pic.

later man, ~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

Look at the first couple inches of the snakes in the first few pictures. To my eyes, the skin in the areas of white scales is lighter, and the skin behind or beneath dark scales is darker. It's most noticeable in the first couple inches on the lower half of the sides of the snakes, where there's a large area of light scales, but it seems to be present in the areas of the narrow crossover rings or bands, too)

(this responds to an earlier thread about whether or not some cal kings, for ex, might have bolder patterns than others, because the skin beneath white bands is white, and the skin beneath black is black; some animals have boldly contrasting scales but the effect is reduced on well-fed animals because dark skin, for ex, shows between white scales)

td

I'd like to see more observations from others based on their animals

Interestingly enough, I have zonata multicincta from a certain population are thought to be anerythristic/axanthic (as the red is more pink/lavender) and this pigment ontogenetically changes black over a short period of time post-hatch. Thus, a 99.9% black snake with white bands. This seems to be sex-liked to female specimens, however, the males are tri-colored with black skin under the scales. Unusual. I will be breeding these for the first time this coming season, and I look forward to sharing this more. The explanation behind it? I'm sure much having to do with adaption connected with predation and thermoregulation, but anything more, well, I'm not sure.
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Jerry Kruse

And God said, "Let there be zonata subspecies for all to ponder..."

Must be some dark Cal. king "wash" in there somewhere..HAHAHAAAA!!

Don't hate!, I'm just a "playa" J- Dawg!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

Yeah, I remember that post you had a while back. Yes, I see what you mean about the skin coloration on her too.

I wonder what the hell they would look like if they were scaleless??, not that I like those at all, because I don't..LOL!

But the skin color thing behind the scales does make ya wonder exactly what's goin' on underneath it all,..huh?

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"