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I was wondering has anyone crossed a caramel albino with a high-contrast albino?!?!?!

I'm still waiting for a first hand report of caramel X albino (any regular albino) to see if the two mutations are alleles (different mutations of the same gene). I did get a report that it had been done and produced the normal looking double hets everyone expects but no one seemed to have the name of the breeder that did it so I'm still not sure.

I am likely going to do a Caramel Mojave x Albino breeding this season -- so will be possible to able to answer the DH question.

The Caramel x Albino is a pairing that I can't believe has not been done -- given how long the morphs have been in collections. Like they say-- you can't make everything -- one has to choose!!!
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Bill Buchman

The assumption has been that caramel and albino are unrelated morphs and that the double homozygous would look like an albino and be a waste of the caramel mutation. However, years ago there was caramel line that would sometimes produce albinos that got me thinking that caramel and albino might be alleles. Not particularly likely that the caramel X albino babies will be anything other than normal looking double hets but I've been waiting a long time for the report. Unless I missed or just forgot the closest I've heard is that someone knows of someone who did the cross and got the expected normals so maybe it has been done already and I just need confirmed by who. I do have reliable reports of caramel X lavender producing normal looking double hets and same for albino X lavender.

It really has shocked me it hasnt been done either. Hopefully someone will cross the two. If anyone finds out please let me know!!

Randy, I was under the impression that an Albino X Lavender pairing would not yield viable eggs? Has anyone produced offspring from such a pairing?

and why would you think this??

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Because Ralph Davis bred a lav X albino a few times and no eggs were viable. That is why I am asking if if has been done by someone else?

RDR's results did get me thinking if it might be possible for two recessive mutations to be fatal in double hets but I did eventually get a reliable report of lavender X albino being done and producing "double hets". Although I trust the source of my 2005 e-mail on the subject I was not given the name of the breeder in Japan who did the cross. By now has it also been done by someone who would post firsthand here? I'm thinking RDR just had uncharacteristically bad luck the first couple times he tried the cross. Did he keep trying and eventually get hatchlings?

Tim Lane at Ball Room Pythons breed a Caramel male to a female Albino this past season. He got double hets.
Trey

Thanks!

Do you happen to know if those where normal looking double hets (i.e. not at all caramel looking)?