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It's COOOOOLD!

Jonathan_Brady Dec 28, 2009 05:45 PM

I'm in Orlando and the low tonight is 37 degrees.

I'm roughly 200-250 due North of the Everglades and the low there is around 50.

Jacksonville is about 100-150 miles North of me and the low there tonight is 30 degrees.

We know the Burms in the Everglades will survive tonight, but does anyone in Orlando have a recently hatched Burm they're willing to sacrifice for the cause? What about in Jacksonville?

I'm thinking we can squash this crap right now!

By the way, I'm COMPLETELY kidding. We all know they'd die.

Just trying to illustrate in yet another way, how absolutely stupid this legislation is.

jb
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SugarFox03 Dec 28, 2009 05:51 PM

I'm in West Palm Beach, which is due east of the 'Glades, and it's in the mid 60's right now (weather app says 64 degrees). Burms have been living (thriving) in the Everglades for many years...I'm not really sure what your post is regarding? They obviously have been surviving our "freezing" winters here in South FL.

Your post seems to sound like any burms in the wild tonight won't make it on account of the cold weather?

Am I the only one a little confused?
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DavidTetreault Dec 28, 2009 06:28 PM

Try being in RI..! It will only get to a high of 30* tomorrow! I know I will never see a population of burms here!

Slacker6848 Dec 28, 2009 06:35 PM

I use to live in South Florida and still have relatives and there's no such thing as a freezing winter in south FL, lol, central Florida is a little different tho, so strange how just a few hundred miles can make such a HUGE difference in climate.
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Jonathan_Brady Dec 28, 2009 08:38 PM

Exactly what I was saying. It's nuts that a few hundred miles in northern lattitude determines whether Burms would live or die
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What's written above is purely my opinion. In fact, MOST of what you read on the internet is someone's opinion. Don't take it too seriously

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LarM Dec 28, 2009 11:34 PM

SugarFox03 jb is saying that Burms and Boas for certain will
perish/die due to complications from exposure if they are
any place other than South Florida

Burms and Boas in Orlando will die

Burms and Boas in Jacksonville will die

Seriously if this weather continues for three days consecutive
I'm quite certain any Burms and Boas from Orlando and North
will die from exposure

That's the point he's making

The Legislation is complete absurdity

Plus I bet there's not even close to 100,000 Burms
in those Everglades down there !!

. . . Lar M
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BROWNSBOAS Dec 29, 2009 01:36 PM

Jonathan, First off as a breeder I would like to thank you for being such a great voice/source of info for so many people who are new or less informed on the natural life requirments of the animals in question.

I was fortunate enough to spend about a week in Marco Island Fl this past November. Although I'm probably not as well informed on the areas were the burms are mostly being found. I did however spend the vast majority of my time road cruising, and using many the boardwalks setup along I believe was Hwy 41. I logged about 350 miles of road cruising.. The Garmin was having a great time with what I was trying to accomplish.

On my walks/drives though I did not see any non-naitive snake species. Some of the boardwalks did lead to many wet areas were I was very surprised to see just about every tropical fish that Petsmart and Petco sells here in Chattanooga thriving in the environment... I also saw more gators than I realistic could count and most in my opinion would have no problem making a quick meal of even a moderately sized burmese python.

The tempertures while I was their were actually very cool with the the morning temp on my day of depature being a balmy 46F. Burmese Pythons were the first exotic species that I worked with in a large collection environment. At the time of my foot amputation in 1997 I had 28 animals in the collection. My own knowledge of the animals has lead me to believe that burms would have a very hard time surviving climaticaly year round past Orlando.

I'm not from Florida and have lived in Chattanooga, TN for the last 25 years. They couldn't survive in the wild here...

I believe the AZA statement on the problem was the best one yet this in reality is not a National problem this is a Florida issue that the state itself needs to address. I am in favor of a permit/registration process as long is it was fair and just...

Just my opinion on the subject...

Al Brown/Brown's Boas

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