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And that is exactly what I have repeated over and over. You are not just killing yourselves you are killing the rest of the hobby. It not the FEW snakes let go, it's not the FEW that have killed their owner or the owners family or friends, its not the FEW who walk around with their big snake as an exhibit, or the FEW who feed their snake dogs and cats. It's the sum of the total. I haven't been to a herp show in two years. Our local show was shut down. I was so disgusted with the last show I sold my breeding colony and got out of the business. We had some very idiotic people at the previous show release a retic in the parking lot of the hotel the show was at, and it was run over. Frankly there were probably about 25% of the attendees that were foolish idiots. The next show federal Game and Fish, local game and fish, State tax and revenue, and city animal control all converged at the show and forced vendors to purchase licenses and permits. We no longer have a show. The local herp keepers suffered.

When I lived in AZ I was accosted by local media because one of the members of the AZ Herp Association was feeding puppies and kittens to their burm. It was an embarassment to the whole club.......especially when it was on all three local news stations in Phoenix.

Its funny how a FEW people can eff up a great hobby. A FEW people have screwed all of you and you did nothing. THAT is what really pisses me off. A FEW people have given you a bad "image" and pissed away your "public relations".

A FEW people are still breeding and selling irresonsibly. (Look below at some of the posts) What are you gonna do about it. And what the hell are you doing about it KS.com

Now I know a bunch of you think I'm part of PETA or HSUS or just some kind of liberal a-hole. I can't stand OBAMA and I think we should all vote for anyone but ANY incumbent.

That being said its TIME for you all to grow some balls and call those out in YOUR portion of the hobby that reflect poorly on you and the rest of us.
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Vichris
"The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane"- Marcus Aurelius

...i own several boas that even children come around that would never hurt a soul i feed my boas regular rats NOT dogs and cats (that would be torture to my snakes feeding them those nasty things)...there are FAR more feral "puppies and kitties" *shudder* than there are pythons in Florida (and everywere else)...dogs kill more people than snakes of all kinds so honestly why dont you go to a dog breeders site and pester them ya tool...

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1.0 c.b.02' 7' Pastel Colombian Boa(thanks Bill!)"Maverick"
0.1 c.b.06' 6' Firebelly x Pastel boa "Betty Boa"
0.1 c.b. 07 5' Amazon Basin Redtail Boa Lola Boa
1.0 c.b. 05 6' Hypo Sonoran Gophersnake
1.0 c.b. 05'2' Snow Corn "Zero"
1.0 Oscar 10" "Jaws"
"...does it bite?"

You say we should "do something" about it...

What did you do? You quit. You didn't do jack. You QUIT.

>>You say we should "do something" about it...
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>>What did you do? You quit. You didn't do jack. You QUIT.

I quit breeding and selling. That doesn't mean I still don't have some herps I keep as pets. I know quite a number of people who have been driven out of hobby. Most are too timid to get on here like me but there are alot of people just like me. Some of you are exactly the type (judging from your posts) that have efffed it up for the rest of the hobby.
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Vichris
"The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane"- Marcus Aurelius

...you probably quit because you werent making any money breeding and selling your snakes while breeders like NERD,Tommy Crutchfield,the Barkers,Bob Clark etc. are making lots of money selling quality snakes so they are to blame for eveything huh?
You say you still keep herps? well good for you...

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1.0 c.b.02' 7' Pastel Colombian Boa(thanks Bill!)"Maverick"
0.1 c.b.06' 6' Firebelly x Pastel boa "Betty Boa"
0.1 c.b. 07 5' Amazon Basin Redtail Boa Lola Boa
1.0 c.b. 05 6' Hypo Sonoran Gophersnake
1.0 c.b. 05'2' Snow Corn "Zero"
1.0 Oscar 10" "Jaws"
"...does it bite?"

Hey...I thought you said you had some backers on the Burmese forum!!!!

Where....

Hello?? echo?

Chirp....chirp....( crickets)...

Where?

They may not be too timid but SMART....to actually see your posting as non-sense.

Where are your backers? You got out and you know people that were driven out? As in when they came to take Frankenstein away from the Mad Scientist?

That sounds pretty interesting....

Pitchforks?

SATANA

>>>>You say we should "do something" about it...
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>>>>What did you do? You quit. You didn't do jack. You QUIT.
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>>I quit breeding and selling. That doesn't mean I still don't have some herps I keep as pets. I know quite a number of people who have been driven out of hobby. Most are too timid to get on here like me but there are alot of people just like me. Some of you are exactly the type (judging from your posts) that have efffed it up for the rest of the hobby.
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>>Vichris
>>"The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane"- Marcus Aurelius
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"Satan™" is a registered trademark of NERD, Inc. Any copyright infringement is punishable by ETERNAL DAMNATION and some other terrible stuff.

Their actual owner?

I don't think I have heard this one...

Please tell us!

Santa Pause

>>And that is exactly what I have repeated over and over. You are not just killing yourselves you are killing the rest of the hobby. It not the FEW snakes let go, it's not the FEW that have killed their owner or the owners family or friends, its not the FEW who walk around with their big snake as an exhibit, or the FEW who feed their snake dogs and cats. It's the sum of the total. I haven't been to a herp show in two years. Our local show was shut down. I was so disgusted with the last show I sold my breeding colony and got out of the business. We had some very idiotic people at the previous show release a retic in the parking lot of the hotel the show was at, and it was run over. Frankly there were probably about 25% of the attendees that were foolish idiots. The next show federal Game and Fish, local game and fish, State tax and revenue, and city animal control all converged at the show and forced vendors to purchase licenses and permits. We no longer have a show. The local herp keepers suffered.
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>>When I lived in AZ I was accosted by local media because one of the members of the AZ Herp Association was feeding puppies and kittens to their burm. It was an embarassment to the whole club.......especially when it was on all three local news stations in Phoenix.
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>>Its funny how a FEW people can eff up a great hobby. A FEW people have screwed all of you and you did nothing. THAT is what really pisses me off. A FEW people have given you a bad "image" and pissed away your "public relations".
>>
>>A FEW people are still breeding and selling irresonsibly. (Look below at some of the posts) What are you gonna do about it. And what the hell are you doing about it KS.com
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>>Now I know a bunch of you think I'm part of PETA or HSUS or just some kind of liberal a-hole. I can't stand OBAMA and I think we should all vote for anyone but ANY incumbent.
>>
>>That being said its TIME for you all to grow some balls and call those out in YOUR portion of the hobby that reflect poorly on you and the rest of us.
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>>Vichris
>>"The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane"- Marcus Aurelius
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"Satan™" is a registered trademark of NERD, Inc. Any copyright infringement is punishable by ETERNAL DAMNATION and some other terrible stuff.