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Our pleas are falling on def years!

robertmcphee Jan 08, 2010 09:12 PM

Maybe we should change our tactic of explaining the economic devastation that S373 will cause....

Maybe a demonstration involving something they can relate to:
I have been working on a way to present my position by comparing our hobby of keeping and breeding boas and their value as compared to the Stock Market.
If a law was passed that stocks/Bonds for a company could only be sold in the state where the company is based, they would have a difficult if not impossible time raising capital to grow their business, create jobs and contribute to the cash flow of the economy. On top of all that, it would create a short ceiling on the value/cost of stocks.
All the stocks that people hold would essentially lose most of their value as the stocks lose their liquidity. This is exactly the same situation that all of us are facing with our collections of boas. Some of us have been slowly building their collection for years and others of us have "invested" very heavily. If this bill passes and we have to sell to our small market (in state) our boas will also lose their liquidity and thus their value will drop in almost all cases.
At least by using the scenario involving stocks and the trading/investing of stocks we could possibly give them (politicians) a better understanding of the business side of our industry.
Even the politicians would have to realize if the same type of bill was passed involving the trade of stocks and bonds the economy would crash in a huge way, not unlike it has the past 18 months.

Any ideas on how to use this concept? Or if it is even worth doing.
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Robert McPhee
www.BBCExotics.com

Replies (9)

robertmcphee Jan 08, 2010 09:22 PM

np
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Robert McPhee
www.BBCExotics.com

Jonathan_Brady Jan 08, 2010 11:13 PM

I love the analogy and have used it myself in my videos. I have the transcript from the video on my website. Here's an excerpt from the video entitled: "face to face strategies".

Let’s imagine another industry dependent upon movement across state lines. How about, tourism? More specifically, let’s look at the theme parks in Central Florida. Imagine if only Florida residents could visit them and it was illegal for residents of other states to cross state lines to visit theme parks in Florida. Imagine that the penalty for violating that law is punishment by up to a $20,000 fine and 5 years in prison for each state line crossed to get here.

What effect would that have on the tourism industry in Florida? Would it only be the theme parks affected? Or would hotels, rental car companies, airlines, restaurants, travel agents, outlet malls, Kennedy space center, the beaches, and more, be affected and possibly crippled?

I think we all know the answer to that. The effect of such a law would devastate the economy in Florida, and bankrupt affiliate businesses and industries.

Another analogy:
Let’s imagine the stock market was in the same boat as the nine types of pet snakes covered by S373. Imagine if it were illegal to sell stocks across state lines. Or to move to a different state as the owner of a stock being held in your current home state.

The very obvious impact of a bill like that would immediately collapse the stock market and the entire worlds economy would be rendered obsolete overnight.

Obviously, both of these analogies are of a much larger scale than the reptile industry. However, the reptiles represent a 3 billion dollar per year industry. The decimation of which, would not go unnoticed. Support of these bills will cripple or bankrupt the tens of thousands of US citizens who have invested in this industry and the ancillary industries like dry goods, cage manufacturing, state-to-state shipping companies, food suppliers, etc.
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What's written above is purely my opinion. In fact, MOST of what you read on the internet is someone's opinion. Don't take it too seriously

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mike_panic Jan 09, 2010 08:22 AM

has. VOTE REPUBLICAN
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honesty is my only policy

brhaco Jan 09, 2010 08:51 PM

The WORST thing we could do is become identified with EITHER major political party. Because then when "our" party is out of power (as the repubs are now-arguably deservedly so), then we are screwed. We should remain steadfastly independent-or maybe Libertarian.
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Brad Chambers
WWW.HCU-TX.ORG

"I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." - Robert A. Heinlein

mike_panic Jan 10, 2010 05:52 AM

lol ok. You just keep telling yourself that.
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honesty is my only policy

brhaco Jan 10, 2010 08:21 AM

Here in Texas, recent anti-herper legislation has been ENTIRELY engineered and pushed through by the Republican party. Our only friends in the legislature so far are Democrats.

Nevertheless, HCU, our state herper's political organization, remains steadfastly non-partisan.
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Brad Chambers
WWW.HCU-TX.ORG

"I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." - Robert A. Heinlein

TopNotchBoas Jan 10, 2010 09:11 AM

The 'one side or the other' fallacy that is continually portrayed by both corrupt parties has long since worn out its welcome.

It's time for people to begin looking at the facts objectively and start thinking for themselves.
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-Ryan Homsey
TopNotchBoas.com Website

dan80woma Jan 11, 2010 08:18 AM

When we vote for congress and senate, we need to vote out every incumbent (Rep. and Dem.) with very few exceptions. This is the only way our voices will ever matter in the future.

natsamjosh Jan 11, 2010 08:38 AM

>>The 'one side or the other' fallacy that is continually portrayed by both corrupt parties has long since worn out its welcome.
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>>It's time for people to begin looking at the facts objectively and start thinking for themselves.
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I agree. IMO, this whole mess is not a snake or pet issue. It's a broken governmnent issue. If, as many propose, we have to create our own "special interest" group to advance our one, specific cause, then that means the two party government system is broken. If we are supposed to vote for a particular party based on ONE issue (ie, this snake legislation), then that means the government is broken. The two party system is broken beyond repair. Time to join the Libertarian party. If that doesn't work, time to consider moving...

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