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Here's a cool male I have over here from Shannon for a breeding project that will commence next year.....His mate is a tad small for breeding this year.......

IMO, Ruthveni are way under appreciated.....Theoretically these are the southern most kingsnake......and a mountain kingsnake at that......Some even believe they are the ancestoral grandparent to all kingsnakes on the North American continent, but I don't know about all that.....I just know that they are awesome and I like them.....

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John Lassiter
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Great pics of a gorgeous animal. His head is really cool looking, and I see that tangerine color on the tail.

>>Great pics of a gorgeous animal. His head is really cool looking, and I see that tangerine color on the tail.

That's why I like to take pics.....
In the pics they are completely still and I can see everything.....LOL
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John Lassiter
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Great pictures John. You've put together a nice group and I look forward to seeing what you get out of them.
Nathan Wells

>>Great pictures John. You've put together a nice group and I look forward to seeing what you get out of them.

Thanks Nathan...I think I may have this camera almost figured out too......

And I will surely share baby pics if we get any this year....We should....I just hope all goes well......
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John Lassiter
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Way cool! I hope you get some good breedings from them. They are awesome snakes to have!

Scott

>>Way cool! I hope you get some good breedings from them. They are awesome snakes to have!

Thanks Scott......
I hope we do too......

Here's a cool pair of mine I will pair up this year as well....

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John Lassiter
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WOW John, those are just so intence. Put me on your list for some neonates from that pair.

Scott

>>WOW John, those are just so intence. Put me on your list for some neonates from that pair.

Thanks...
Will do.....
I just hope they will reproduce.....
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John Lassiter
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Thank bro, that is way cool of you!

Scott

Here's an old pic of my first ruthveni. Sorry about the poor quality, didn't have digital cameras then....LOL!

Scott

I paired up mine last season as well.
Here's an albino female.

and her mate, a normal looking het/albino male

...an albino male I pair with a normal female

You know, I had a normal looking female het/albino I bred to the normal het male above for 5 yrs. and never got one albino hatchling.....until....the last snake to pip from a clutch of 6 a few years ago. I had no idea they were hets!
Now I breed them each to albinos and get 50:50 het to albino ratio.

While we're at it....
I still put a het X albino pair together rather than albino X albino. I have been doing this for years since I got duds a few times when pairing them that way. I get 100% hatch rate nowadays.
What's your (and anyone else's) take on that???
:Mark
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>> While we're at it....
>>I still put a het X albino pair together rather than albino X albino. I have been doing this for years since I got duds a few times when pairing them that way. I get 100% hatch rate nowadays.
>> What's your (and anyone else's) take on that???

Those are all killer Mark....
And het x albino or het X het is the way to go....
Back in 2000 I got het female and an albino male just because of the fertility problems with amel x amel.....
I couldn't get the het female back then to lay viable eggs so I guess it was either my fault or the male's fault.....

I do have another female Ruthveni I got with this amel pair she may be het amel, but I dunno......
We'll see though......
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John Lassiter
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Great pics man!,......

I also think it is usually better to breed a homozygous to a het, not only regarding ruthveni, but some other morphs too. That litle bit of diverse genetics from the het contributor can often make a substantial difference regarding fertility.

~Doug
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Mark, I am not normally an albino fan but these things are freaky bright. Love it.

Hold on a minute John. That second one is NEON!!!!! Way cool.

>>Hold on a minute John. That second one is NEON!!!!! Way cool.

AND ABERRANT!!!!....LOL
She is one of the best tricolor amels I have ever seen and I usually do not like albino tricolors......

Mark K. has one very similar he posted that I really like as well......
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John Lassiter
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Awesome looking critter!! I have only seen one in person before and do like them. Need to make more room. Need to make more room. Need to make more room. LOL.

>>Awesome looking critter!! I have only seen one in person before and do like them. Need to make more room. Need to make more room. Need to make more room. LOL.

Thanks Joe.....They are awesome snakes....
LOL....That's funny....I'm thinking of building a wing onto my snake room for Zonata and Alterna.....Heheheheeh
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John Lassiter
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Here's a few aberrant Ruthies We will be working with as well....

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John Lassiter
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WOW! John those are so gnarly looking!

Scott

>>WOW! John those are so gnarly looking!

LOL...gnarly....I haven't heard that in 20 years....

Thanks Scott...

These aberrants are from 2 different Mexican locales than that first male I posted.....
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John Lassiter
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Hey I'm from Southern Californa, so gnarly, totally and stoked are just everyday common words....LOL! Hope you get success breeding them. They are way cool!

Scott

>>Hey I'm from Southern Californa, so gnarly, totally and stoked are just everyday common words....LOL! Hope you get success breeding them. They are way cool!

Back in the 80s I surfed all over the place and have worked recently in Wilmington, El Segundo and Long Beach so I am well aware that those terms are still "in use" in southern cal.....
Us folks on the Texas Gulf coast "barrowed" those terms from Southern Cal in the 80s but I haven't heard them in many years....

Thanks for the kind words Scott......
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John Lassiter
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I use to surf too, Santa Monica, Zuma, Dog Town, I still skateboard when I get the chance. I guess some habits die hard? Good thing the love of reptiles never will with us.

Scott

>>I use to surf too, Santa Monica, Zuma, Dog Town, I still skateboard when I get the chance. I guess some habits die hard? Good thing the love of reptiles never will with us.

I never got to surf west Coast but I surfed the entire Texas Gulf coast that was worth surfing, Mazatlan and the east coast of Florida........

I was in Southern Cal (Redondo Beach) in 2007 but by then it was WAY too long since I had been on a board that I didn't even attempt catching any waves there....You know...I'm too old, fat and gray now......LOL
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John Lassiter
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Ah I think it might be like riding a bike, you never really forget, but it's been along time since I've been on one too. I think the best idea is to let someone else find out....LOL!

Scott

I just posted these on another forum and they were still saved on my clipboard so I thought I'd post them here.....
Enjoy...I hope....hehe

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John Lassiter
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John, you do have the killer collection! That aberrant Sinaloan is sweet!

Scott

>>John, you do have the killer collection! That aberrant Sinaloan is sweet!

There's no Sinaloan in those pics.....ALL Ruthveni......
That Real Aberrant adult and the small aberrant are Tapalpa, Mexico F3 and F4 L. ruthveni....."Diablo" line.....
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John Lassiter
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My bad! Still they beautiful ruthies. You have some intense snakes and lines.

Scott

>>My bad! Still they beautiful ruthies. You have some intense snakes and lines.

Thanks Scott......
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John Lassiter
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totally tubular!
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