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breeding ?

dj314bmx Jan 17, 2010 05:07 PM

hey everyone i am wanting to get into breeding as i always have not anything big i just want to do it and see what i can get i have a blonde pastel male right now there is a expo in march i am hoping to pic a female up at i am just wondering what kind of female should i get and what kind of morphs can i produce with my blonde pastel ? thanx

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kyleherp Jan 17, 2010 07:40 PM

You could get another pastel and make pastels and possibly some super pastels. You could get a spider and make spiders, pastels and possibly some bees. Or a pinstripe and make pins, pastels and possibly some lemon blasts. Its your call.

Thanks
Kyle
Kyle's Reptyles

jason Jan 17, 2010 08:43 PM

Depends on your budget and what you are in to. You could even pick up a normal female if you want and still make some pastel babies. Any co dom morph will give you the most variety from a single clutch when bred to your pastel.
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Snakes:
1.1 gray banded kingsnake
1.1 california kingsnake
1.1 kenyan sand boa
1.1 western hognose snake
0.1 albino checkered garter
1.0 florida blue garter
1.1 het anery red sided garter
1.1 reverse oketee corn snake
1.1 blood red corn snake
0.1 amel striped corn
1.0 amel 66% het striped corn
1.1 het albino ball python
1.1 het ghost ball python
0.1 spider ball python
1.0 pastel ball python
1.1 mojave ball python
1.0 butter ball python
0.1 ringer ball python
1.0 African dinker ball python
0.3 normal ball python
1.0 piebald ball python
0.1 het piebald ball python
0.1 Genetic Stripe Ball Python
1.0 Het Genetic Stripe Ball Python
0.1 Mystic Ball Python

Turtles
1-eastern box turtle
2-spotted turtle
2-eastern/midland painted turtle intergrade
1.0-common musk turtle
1-Pink bellied sideneck
6-Northern red belly

Invertebrates
0.1 southern black widow
1-Tanzanian Giant Tailless whipscorpion

Amphibians
0.1 Ornate Horned Frog

Birds:
1.1 red avadavit
2-blue breasted cordon blue
1.1-black cheeked waxbill
0.1-star finch
1.0-Java rice sparrow
2.0-owl finch
1.0-hybrid munia
0.1-White bellied caique

Fish
2-corydoras cats
1-African upside down cat

normal stuff
0.1 black lab

kingofspades Jan 17, 2010 11:13 PM

Look into a female spider. Bumblebees are nice.
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If all the beasts were gone,
men would die from great loneliness of spirit.
For what happens to the beasts,
soon happens to men.
All things are connected."

-Chief Seattle (Duwamish Tribe)

BrandonSander Jan 18, 2010 03:38 AM

Pastels are an excellent "base morph" for people looking to breed for fun and to learn the ropes. They have been crossed with nearly every other morph out there (recessive, dominant, and co-dominant alike).

Unless you have a huge budget you won't end up creating anything that no one else has.

However, I personally think that the Pastel gene enhances the appearance of nearly everything it touches. You really don't have to worry about picking up the wrong morph to cross it into. Figure out your budget and do a little research online (for photos). There are all sorts of sites that have photos of the many various genetic crosses that have been done.

Find a cross or two that you like and then see what fits into your budget. However, a word of caution: don't buy a morph just because you can afford it. Find the morph or combo that you REALLY like and save up if you have to. You will get far more enjoyment out of a project that you like (or love) than one that you can merely "afford".

When you do settle on a certain morph (or two), again, don't just buy the first one you see that you can afford. Breeders will have varying prices and it pays to be picky. It's your money (and time and energy) after all. So look for the absolute best looking example of whichever morph you are interested in.

With quality breeders you will not only be happier with the results of their offspring but good looking hatchlings tend to grow into good looking adults.

Also remember that if you pick up a female hatchling you may have to wait as long as three years before she is ready to breed. (Yes, some can and will breed sooner, but you'll feel less pressured to get her to breed if you realize now that she may take longer to mature.) You can usually find an older female to less your wait time, possibly even a proven breeder, but you will pay more for her than you would a hatchling.

When I purchase a new snake (regardless of species) I always prefer to purchase a neonate over purchasing an adult or sub-adult. I may have to wait longer for them to mature before I can breed them, but I've found that older, more established animals can take longer to "settle in" than the younger ones. In the past when I've purchased adult or sub-adult females I've actually had some of them take as long as a year or more to settle in enough to actually breed for me even though they had both the proper weight and age to breed.

There is a lot to consider, but if you take your time and weigh all of the factors you will be much more content with the results no matter which morph you decide upon.

Let us know what you end up picking up and post some pictures too if you can!

If you want, if you tell us what your approximate budget is, we could help you out by letting you know some of the female morphs that are within your price range.
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dj314bmx Jan 18, 2010 02:30 PM

hey thanks alot for your help, i will be buying a hatchling becuz the male i have is still very young im not sure how old he his but probably not even a year he just shed today actually =] but im not sure what i want i really like spiders, bumble bees, killer bees and many more theres so many but those are just some that realy grab my eye.

if i had to say what i would love to produce over all other morphs i would love to eventually produce a leucistic but thats down the road a little ways

as for the pics i have no idea how to post pics on here

thanks again for the help

jason Jan 18, 2010 05:00 PM

when you get your pet hobbyist user name, you get a photo account. Go up to "photos" at the top of the page to access it. You can upload photos to this account, then, whenever you make a post, you will have the option at the bottom of the page to post up to 3 photos from your account.
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Snakes:
1.1 gray banded kingsnake
1.1 california kingsnake
1.1 kenyan sand boa
1.1 western hognose snake
0.1 albino checkered garter
1.0 florida blue garter
1.1 het anery red sided garter
1.1 reverse oketee corn snake
1.1 blood red corn snake
0.1 amel striped corn
1.0 amel 66% het striped corn
1.1 het albino ball python
1.1 het ghost ball python
0.1 spider ball python
1.0 pastel ball python
1.1 mojave ball python
1.0 butter ball python
0.1 ringer ball python
1.0 African dinker ball python
0.3 normal ball python
1.0 piebald ball python
0.1 het piebald ball python
0.1 Genetic Stripe Ball Python
1.0 Het Genetic Stripe Ball Python
0.1 Mystic Ball Python

Turtles
1-eastern box turtle
2-spotted turtle
2-eastern/midland painted turtle intergrade
1.0-common musk turtle
1-Pink bellied sideneck
6-Northern red belly

Invertebrates
0.1 southern black widow
1-Tanzanian Giant Tailless whipscorpion

Amphibians
0.1 Ornate Horned Frog

Birds:
1.1 red avadavit
2-blue breasted cordon blue
1.1-black cheeked waxbill
0.1-star finch
1.0-Java rice sparrow
2.0-owl finch
1.0-hybrid munia
0.1-White bellied caique

Fish
2-corydoras cats
1-African upside down cat

normal stuff
0.1 black lab

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