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The pair I have decided to keep for myself, stripe fans welcome!

mike_panic Sep 19, 2003 04:33 PM

even though they arent really stripes. The male is almost perfect with a nice yellow wide racing stripe. The female is not too shabby but the only female that had striping s o she had to stay. And they both ate for me right out of the gate! Thanks for looking. Mike Panichi

Here is the male

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honesty is my only policy

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mike_panic Sep 19, 2003 04:34 PM

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carl3 Sep 19, 2003 06:31 PM

n/p
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Marcel Poots Sep 20, 2003 02:52 AM

Aren't Striped Motleys actually heterozygous for normal stripe? So when you breed these two together you could get stripeds? Awesome corns man! I am totally into Butters now and I want to make Motley Butters too.

Marcel

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Marcel Poots (Holland)
'Where is your crown King Nothing?' James Hettfield

mike_panic Sep 20, 2003 08:35 AM

Hey Marcel, I think they are the same gene or closely related. I think that once you combine those two genes its in there for good no matter what the babies look like. The parents of these were almost perect motleys and I had no idea about the striped line until I emailed mike Shiver and asked him a few questions. turns out one of the orginals he used to start the line was an amel striped motley het for caramel. I couldnt call these butter striped even though they are striped. The actual striped corns cannot have any motley bred into them. When I am looking to pick up a striped corn, I always ask if they came from striped parents or motley parents. Usually you can tell but I have bred some normal stripes from Motley parents that looked like regular stripes. Now if you breed them together, you could still end up with motleys down the road. That could be a dissapointment if you're trying to produce a striped animal of whatever morph. Later.
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honesty is my only policy

h0mersimps0n Sep 19, 2003 06:14 PM

PRETTY PLEASE!? you don't have any extra's to sell do you?

AMAZING ANIMAL

mike_panic Sep 19, 2003 07:49 PM

drop me an email. Thanks
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h0mersimps0n Sep 20, 2003 07:38 AM

I did, did you get it?

Clint Boyer Sep 19, 2003 06:53 PM

I'm not a stripe fan but those aren't really stripes!

They will be awesome Mike! Congrats!

Clint Boyer

cmsuphoto Sep 19, 2003 08:17 PM

Holy crap i want one of those! What an awesome snake!

AJ

cmsuphoto Sep 19, 2003 08:18 PM

Holy crap i want one of those! What an awesome snake!

AJ

cmsuphoto Sep 19, 2003 08:19 PM

Holy crap i want one of those! What an awesome snake!

AJ

h0mersimps0n Sep 19, 2003 08:58 PM

they're not stripes? Are the striped motley? are they Butter?

I'm so bad at telling what snakes are, there are so many variations of the same thing (lav, anery A, charcoal as an example) that look so similar I just have no clue. The only definitive thing I can tell is the belly, I read in Kathy's book that no ventral patter means stripe, motley or bloodred right?

Any of the pro's want to throw me some tips.

I have a hard time telling some normals from Okeetee's too, I've seen some pretty thin black borders that people call Okeetee (which I thought required very full thick black saddle borders)

grrrr

Marcel Poots Sep 20, 2003 02:58 AM

Difference in Normal stripes and Motley stripes is the thickness of the stripe. Motley has a narrow stripe and is often (99%) not connected to the head. Normal Stripe is wide and always connected to the head.

Motley:

Stripe

And as for Okeetee's it is very hard. This is my normal corn that I call Okeetee because of her very red sadels and not so much because of her thick black borders:

Hope that helps a bit.
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Marcel Poots (Holland)
'Where is your crown King Nothing?' James Hettfield

h0mersimps0n Sep 20, 2003 07:40 AM

LOL, had to sneak that 3rd pic in there didn't ya

you're a photo maniac, thats for sure!

h0mersimps0n Sep 20, 2003 07:41 AM

LOL, had to sneak that 3rd pic in there didn't ya

you're a photo maniac, thats for sure! But thanks! great stripes, I blame you for my new-founded stripe addiction

Marcel Poots Sep 20, 2003 07:53 AM

>>LOL, had to sneak that 3rd pic in there didn't ya
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>>you're a photo maniac, thats for sure! But thanks! great stripes, I blame you for my new-founded stripe addiction
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Marcel Poots (Holland)
'Where is your crown King Nothing?' James Hettfield

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